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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 3/3] drivers: always enable the null net driver [RFC]
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 14:40:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F6568F@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXImy8tDAqFygz_T@bricha3-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com>

> From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2026 14.32
> 
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 02:13:06PM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2026 13.24
> > >
> > > Having the net_null driver always available can be convenient and
> > > allows
> > > use by unit tests, so add this trivial driver to the always-enable
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > >
> > > ---
> > > I'm not sure if we want this to be always enabled or not, so
> sending
> > > this as an RFC. I can see definite advantages to doing so, but I
> also
> > > dislike having too many components on the always-enable list.
> > >
> > > Since I'm ambivilent myself, including this patch so the community
> can
> > > decide.
> >
> > I don't think real applications use this.
> > If they do, they can include it manually.
> >
> > My main objection is:
> > We are setting the wrong precedence if we make stuff like this
> mandatory for convenience.
> >
> > But I agree with the reason you are suggesting it.
> >
> > Is there some other way it can be enabled for unit tests?
> > Maybe the null driver can depend on the unit tests being built?
> >
> > I don't mind that the driver is being built.
> > I just don't want it included by default when statically linking a
> monolithic application.
> >
> > I'm flexible on this RFC, so it's a very soft NAK from me.
> > If it can be disabled at build time, I'm OK with it. (But still
> concerned about setting the wrong precedence.)
> >
> Yes, I agree.
> 
> Why I'm proposing this is because, in order to give me faster rebuilds
> and
> because of the hardware I have available to me, I generally set up my
> builds with "-Denable_drivers=net/intel/*", since that really speeds up
> my
> dev-build-test cycle. In doing so, though, I do miss out on having some
> unit tests available when I run the fast-test suite, which is why I
> suggested this addition in case there are others who limit the builds
> to
> just the hardware they are using.

You can build with "-Denable_drivers=net/intel/*,net/null".

Then I'll suggest an alternative to this patch:
Change the fast-test application, so it emits an informational message about which tests are being skipped because the net/null driver is missing.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-22 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-22 12:23 [PATCH 0/3] manage net/null dependency for tests Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 12:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] test/bpf: skip some testing if null net driver not present Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 16:19   ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-22 16:23     ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 22:17   ` [PATCH] test/bpf: skip the BPF ELF load tests if net null missing Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-23  7:55     ` Morten Brørup
2026-02-16 14:58     ` David Marchand
2026-01-22 12:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] test: fix missing dependency on null networking driver Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 12:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] drivers: always enable the null net driver [RFC] Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 13:13   ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-22 13:31     ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 13:40       ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2026-01-22 14:59         ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 16:09           ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-22 13:47       ` David Marchand
2026-01-22 14:57         ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-22 15:37           ` Morten Brørup
2026-02-19 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] improve net/null dependency handling for tests Bruce Richardson
2026-02-19 17:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] test/event_eth_rx_adapter: skip tests if no ethdevs Bruce Richardson
2026-02-19 17:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] test/event_eth_tx_adapter: remove dependency on NULL PMD Bruce Richardson
2026-02-19 17:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] test: fix missing dependency on null networking driver Bruce Richardson
2026-02-19 17:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] build/tests: add warning for missing NULL PMD dependency Bruce Richardson
2026-02-19 19:44   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] improve net/null dependency handling for tests Morten Brørup
2026-03-03 16:29   ` David Marchand

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