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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Scott Mitchell" <scott.k.mitch1@gmail.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 2/3] net/af_packet: RX/TX rte_memcpy, bulk free, prefetch
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 10:49:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F656BF@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFn2buBzhD=+5fG44xVyVYvLdunSxK7hTUAqi8+acPqoLf508w@mail.gmail.com>

> > > - Replace memcpy() with rte_memcpy() for optimized copy operations
> > There is no good reason that rte_memcpy() should be faster than
> memcpy().
> > There were some cases observed with virtio but my hunch is that this
> is
> > because the two routines are making different alignment assumptions.
> 
> ack. I will drop rte_memcpy.

The community is increasingly skeptical about using rte_memcpy() instead of memcpy().
I'm not sure all DPDK documentation has been updated to reflect this change, but might still recommend rte_memcpy().

So, simply replacing memcpy() with rte_memcpy() is no longer acceptable.
However, if you back up the replacement with performance data, it is more likely to get accepted.

> Under what scenarios is rte_memcpy preferred/beneficial?

I wish someone had an answer to that question!
The best I can come up with is:
When using an ancient compiler or C library, where memcpy() isn't properly optimized.

With modern compilers catching up, rte_memcpy() is becoming increasingly obsolete.

Here's some background information about rte_memcpy() from 2017:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/performance-optimization-of-memcpy-in-dpdk.html

IIRC, the concept of a specialized memcpy() originates from some video streaming or gaming code, where huge memory areas were being copied around.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-27 18:13 [PATCH v1 0/3] net/af_packet: correctness fixes and improvements scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:13 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:39   ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28  1:35     ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-27 18:13 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] net/af_packet: RX/TX rte_memcpy, bulk free, prefetch scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:54   ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28  1:23     ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28  9:49       ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2026-01-28 15:37         ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 16:57           ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-27 18:13 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] net/af_packet: software checksum and tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28  7:05     ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 17:36       ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 18:59         ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-27 20:45   ` [REVIEW] " Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28  9:36 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28  9:36   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 16:59     ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 18:00       ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 18:28         ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28  9:36   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX unlikely, bulk free, prefetch scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28  9:36   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28  9:36   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] net/af_packet: software checksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 18:27     ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 19:08       ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 19:10   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 19:10     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 19:10     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX unlikely, bulk free, prefetch scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-29  1:07       ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02  5:29         ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 19:10     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 19:10     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] net/af_packet: software checksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 21:57       ` [REVIEW] " Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02  7:55         ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-02 16:58           ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02  8:14     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02  8:14       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02  8:14       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX bulk free, unlikely hint scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02  8:14       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02  8:14       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] net/af_packet: add software checksum offload support scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02 17:00         ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02 18:47         ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-03  6:41           ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-02 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-03  7:07       ` [PATCH v5 " scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03  7:07         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03  7:07         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX bulk free, unlikely hint scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03  7:07         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03  7:07         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] net/af_packet: add software checksum offload support scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03  8:20           ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-03 14:12             ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-04  2:59               ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-03 14:13           ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-04  1:39             ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-05 21:27               ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-06  1:11         ` [PATCH v6 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06  1:11           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06  1:11           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX bulk free, unlikely hint scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06  1:11           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06  1:11           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] net/af_packet: add software checksum offload support scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06  1:49           ` [PATCH v6 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-06  4:45             ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-06 14:36             ` Morten Brørup
2026-02-06 16:11               ` Stephen Hemminger

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