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From: "Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "thomasfherbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
	<thomasfherbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Matthew Hall <mhall-Hv3ogNYU3JfZZajBQzqCxQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org"
	<dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org>,
	"therbert-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<therbert-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: GitHub sandbox for the DPDK community
Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 14:07:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D16A428C.1E980%keith.wiles@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5544C527.6050109-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>



On 5/2/15, 7:37 AM, "Thomas F Herbert" <thomasfherbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>On 5/2/15 7:40 AM, Neil Horman wrote:
>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:36:58PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
>>>> Projects like GCC, GLIBC, binutils, busybox, etc or what?
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>> You'll notice all of these are low-level UNIX hacker sorts of tools
>>>mostly,
>>> with the partial exception of busybox. But even that is mainly for
>>>embedded
>>> use. It doesn't mean I don't think they're good and useful, but it
>>>does limit
>>> the possible size of the community in my view.
>>>
>>> Since we are talking about how to get the largest widest community
>>>possible
>>> for DPDK, it could require doing things a bit differently from how many
>>> low-level tools have historically done things.
>A look at gmane, http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.networking.dpdk.devel,
>confirms the explosion of interest in DPDK in the last 6 months with
>postings up to almost 70/day.  There is no problem with lack of interest
>in DPDK nor is there a need to change the mechanics of hosting the

We do need to reach more developer as I see the DPDK community growing
around VNF/NFV to developers that are not experts in the fine details of
DPDK, but a group of developers wanting to get the highest performance out
of his NFV/VNF system.

The DPDK community needs to grow and will grow, at 70+ emails a day which
will only become more. Using something like GitHub we will be able to help
the DPDK community to become more then a niche project or a low level tool.

Moving to a new site helps us. I believe, it may not allow you to stay
using pure command line development, but we as developers can and will
adapt to the new process quickly as I see the DPDK community as a very
bright and resourceful group of developers.

> 
>source to widen the audience. The case for DPDK is really compelling,
>the idea for reducing the HW complexity by accelerating switch functions
>on commodity HW is a fantastic benefit. Easily integrated accelerated
>programmable switch functions is a great advantage as well.
>
>I do think there may be an argument for increasing the number of
>reviewers/maintainers or subdivide according to ares of interest perhaps
>into 4 categories:
>1. PMD drivers
>2. librte core
>3. applications
>4. vhost
>
>--TFH
>
>>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Contributors to GCC: ~600 (based on svn) review
>> Contrubutors to glibc : ~300 (based on git) review
>> Contributors to binutils: ~600
>> Contributors to busybox: ~300
>>
>> Contributors to DPDK: ~125
>>
>> Now I grant you that dpdk is a newer, much more niche project, but its
>> disingenuous to state that we _have_ to do things differently to reach
>>a wider
>> audience.  We can, but its by no means a prerequisite to gainining a
>>wider
>> audience.
>>
>
>
>-- 
>Thomas F. Herbert
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-02 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-01 15:56 GitHub sandbox for the DPDK community Wiles, Keith
     [not found] ` <D1690998.1E825%keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 16:45   ` Neil Horman
     [not found]     ` <20150501164512.GB27756-B26myB8xz7F8NnZeBjwnZQMhkBWG/bsMQH7oEaQurus@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 17:18       ` Aaro Koskinen
2015-05-04 12:39         ` Qiu, Michael
2015-05-01 17:31       ` Matthew Hall
     [not found]         ` <20150501173108.GA24714-Hv3ogNYU3JfZZajBQzqCxQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 17:45           ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-01 18:48           ` Neil Horman
     [not found]             ` <20150501184813.GC27756-B26myB8xz7F8NnZeBjwnZQMhkBWG/bsMQH7oEaQurus@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 19:10               ` Wiles, Keith
     [not found]                 ` <D1693746.1E922%keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-02  2:59                   ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-03 21:00                   ` Neil Horman
     [not found]                     ` <20150503210018.GA8090-0o1r3XBGOEbbgkc5XkKeNuvMHUBZFtU3YPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04  3:51                       ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-04 12:43         ` Qiu, Michael
     [not found]           ` <533710CFB86FA344BFBF2D6802E602860466B524-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 17:48             ` Matthew Hall
     [not found]               ` <20150504174857.GA27496-Hv3ogNYU3JfZZajBQzqCxQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 18:52                 ` Neil Horman
2015-05-05  3:12                 ` Wiles, Keith
     [not found]                   ` <D16D82ED.1EB66%keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05  3:25                     ` Jim Thompson
     [not found]                       ` <924D0FD1-4A1F-4C3E-929C-38C29AED61D7-jiyf0hk6h8BBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 13:55                         ` Neil Horman
     [not found]                           ` <20150505135542.GB27259-B26myB8xz7F8NnZeBjwnZQMhkBWG/bsMQH7oEaQurus@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 16:43                             ` Wiles, Keith
     [not found]                               ` <0CA4031C-561F-4BB9-8B14-674D6D99EE6E-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 17:57                                 ` John W. Linville
     [not found]                                   ` <20150505175746.GH3015-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 18:30                                     ` Wiles, Keith
     [not found]                                       ` <DD7D2AD5-06B7-40B3-B2A6-1FFBCBA56AD6-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 18:46                                         ` John W. Linville
2015-05-05 19:07                                 ` Neil Horman
     [not found]                                   ` <20150505190702.GC27259-B26myB8xz7F8NnZeBjwnZQMhkBWG/bsMQH7oEaQurus@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 20:15                                     ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-06  8:12                                 ` Panu Matilainen
     [not found]                                   ` <5549CCEC.8090606-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06  8:30                                     ` Simon Kågström
     [not found]                                       ` <5549D10C.7010300-vI6UBbBVNY+JA8cjQkG2/g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06  9:00                                         ` Panu Matilainen
2015-05-06 10:37                                         ` Neil Horman
2015-05-07 15:26                                     ` John W. Linville
2015-05-01 18:01       ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-01 18:09   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-01 18:17     ` Wiles, Keith
     [not found]       ` <D1692C5C.1E909%keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 20:34         ` Marc Sune
     [not found]           ` <5547D7D5.2040508-kpkqNMk1I7M@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05  2:54             ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-01 19:49     ` Matthew Hall
     [not found]       ` <20150501194951.GA25199-Hv3ogNYU3JfZZajBQzqCxQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 19:59         ` Aaro Koskinen
     [not found]           ` <20150501195932.GD595-+UqvGBo8NkiJ/SmVcN9c7yH8jP4CeeTLqBW4ids5wwA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 20:36             ` Matthew Hall
     [not found]               ` <20150501203658.GA26543-Hv3ogNYU3JfZZajBQzqCxQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-02 11:40                 ` Neil Horman
     [not found]                   ` <20150502114059.GB28845-B26myB8xz7F8NnZeBjwnZQMhkBWG/bsMQH7oEaQurus@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-02 12:37                     ` Thomas F Herbert
     [not found]                       ` <5544C527.6050109-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-02 14:07                         ` Wiles, Keith [this message]
2015-05-02 13:59                     ` Wiles, Keith
     [not found]                       ` <D16A4205.1E97A%keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 21:08                         ` Marc Sune
     [not found]                           ` <5547DFC3.60207-kpkqNMk1I7M@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05  3:09                             ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-04  6:52   ` Simon Ka*gstro"m
     [not found]     ` <55471747.5030705-vI6UBbBVNY+JA8cjQkG2/g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04  9:05       ` Marc Sune
2015-05-06 10:11   ` Mcnamara, John
2015-05-06 21:09   ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-05-06 21:37     ` Marc Sune
     [not found]       ` <554A89A0.1080906-kpkqNMk1I7M@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 23:49         ` Wiles, Keith
     [not found]           ` <D16FE27D.1F1E8%keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-07  3:37             ` Wiles, Keith
2015-05-12 14:38               ` Thomas Monjalon
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2015-05-04  5:08 Wiles, Keith

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