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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	<techboard@dpdk.org>,  <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: mbuf fast-free requirements analysis
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 08:46:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWipWVON45iXUTrg@bricha3-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F6565E@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 07:05:44PM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17.36
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 04:31:31PM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > > > If I'm not mistaken, the mbuf library is not a barrier for fast-
> > > > freeing
> > > > > segmented packet mbufs, and thus fast-free of jumbo frames is
> > > > possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > We need a driver developer to confirm that my suggested approach
> > -
> > > > > resetting the mbuf fields, incl. 'm->nb_segs' and 'm->next', when
> > > > > preparing the Tx descriptor - is viable.
> > > > >
> > > > Excellent analysis, Morten. If I get a chance some time this
> > release
> > > > cycle,
> > > > I will try implementing this change in our drivers, see if any
> > > > difference
> > > > is made.
> > >
> > > Bruce,
> > >
> > > Have you had a chance to look into the driver change requirements?
> > > If not, could you please try scratching the surface, to build a gut
> > feeling.
> > 
> > I'll try and take a look this week. Juggling a few things at the
> > moment, so
> > I had forgotten about this. Sorry.
> > 
> > More comments inline below.
> > 
> > /Bruce
> > 
> > >
> > > I wonder if the vector implementations have strong requirements that
> > packets are not segmented...
> > >
> > > The i40 driver only sets "tx_simple_allowed" and "tx_vec_allowed"
> > flags when MBUF_FAST_FREE is set:
> > >
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v25.11/source/drivers/net/intel/i40e/i4
> > 0e_rxtx.c#L3502
> > >
> > 
> > Actually, it allows but does not require FAST_FREE. The check is just
> > verifying that the flags with everything *but* FAST_FREE masked out is
> > the
> > same as the original flags, i.e. FAST_FREE is just ignored.
> 
> That's not how I read the code:
> ad->tx_simple_allowed =
> 	(txq->offloads ==
> 	 (txq->offloads & RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE) &&
> 	 txq->tx_rs_thresh >= I40E_TX_MAX_BURST);
> 
> Look at it with offloads=(MULTI_SEGS|FAST_FREE):
> simple_allowed = (MULTI_SEGS|FAST_FREE) == (MULTI_SEGS|FAST_FREE) & FAST_FREE
> i.e.:
> simple_allowed = (MULTI_SEGS|FAST_FREE) == FAST_FREE
> i.e.: false
> 

Which is correct. The only flag allowed is FAST_FREE, but its not required.
If the input flags were just MULTI_SEGS, it would end  up as:

simple_allowed = (MULTI_SEGS) == 0
i.e. also false

So the FAST_FREE flag does not affect the result.

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-15  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-15 11:06 mbuf fast-free requirements analysis Morten Brørup
2025-12-15 11:46 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-14 15:31   ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-14 16:36     ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-14 18:05       ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-15  8:46         ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2026-01-15  9:04           ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 11:20     ` [PATCH] net/intel: optimize for fast-free hint Bruce Richardson
2026-01-23 12:05       ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 12:09         ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-23 12:27           ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 12:53             ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-23 13:06               ` Morten Brørup
2026-04-08 13:25       ` [PATCH v2] " Bruce Richardson
2026-04-08 19:27         ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 11:33     ` mbuf fast-free requirements analysis Bruce Richardson
2025-12-15 14:41 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-12-15 16:14   ` Morten Brørup
2025-12-19 17:08     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-12-20  7:33       ` Morten Brørup
2025-12-22 15:22         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-12-22 17:11           ` Morten Brørup
2025-12-22 17:43             ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-13 14:48               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-01-13 16:07                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-14 17:01 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-14 17:31   ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-14 17:45     ` Bruce Richardson

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