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From: Marat Khalili <qm2k21@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/33] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 09:36:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c31498a8-fe6b-4855-9edd-31494c9b14ed@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260920181347.747210-2-stephen@networkplumber.org>

Thanks for doing this. I see that comments were expanded since v1, but 
the code stayed the same. Using both atomic operations _and_ memory 
barriers looks redundant and misleading, and the original got away with 
just memory barriers. In the reviews to v1 there were different opinions 
on which way to choose, just barriers (for the minimal change) or just 
atomics, but I think we need to choose at most one.

On 20/09/2026 19:09, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> The use counter is a seqcount, not a reference count: odd means the
> datapath is inside the callback, even means it is not. The two
> barriers around it play different roles.
>
> In bpf_eth_cbi_inuse() the counter goes odd and the following loads
> of cb, bpf and jit must not be hoisted above that store. Ordering a
> store against later loads needs a full barrier, so rte_smp_mb()
> becomes a seq_cst thread fence.
This explanation probably belongs to the code, not commit message.
> In bpf_eth_cbi_unuse() the read barrier becomes an acquire fence.
> What must not happen there is the critical section loads sinking
> past the store that makes the counter even, which is load/store
> ordering, and that is what a standalone acquire fence provides.
> acq_rel would additionally order prior stores, but the read side
> only loads from the cbi and so has nothing to publish; it would
> only upgrade dmb ishld to dmb ish on the datapath for no benefit.

The last part is not very readable for uninitiated. Perhaps it's better 
not to mix C abstract machine language with ARM instructions when 
justifying the solution.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-29 17:53 [RFC 00/32] remove rte_smp barrier functions Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 01/32] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  8:48   ` Marat Khalili
2026-07-30 11:19     ` Marat Khalili
2026-07-30 12:51       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-30  9:23   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 02/32] test: remove test for rte_smp_mb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  7:25   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 03/32] bus/vmbus: fix ring buffer ordering on weakly ordered CPUs Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-05  1:22   ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 04/32] bus/vmbus: fix missing acquire on receive ring index Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-05  1:23   ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 05/32] bus/vmbus: replace SMP barriers with C11 memory fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-13 21:41   ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 06/32] baseband: convert rte_smp_rmb to fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 07/32] net/hinic: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 08/32] net/intel: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-13 10:17   ` Bruce Richardson
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 09/32] crypto_caam_jr: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-06  6:10   ` Hemant Agrawal
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 10/32] net/virtio: replcae rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 11/32] net/thunderx: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 12/32] stack: always use C11 memory model implementation Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-31 14:53   ` Morten Brørup
2026-08-01 15:25     ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-01 17:01     ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-02  6:33       ` Morten Brørup
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 13/32] ring: replace SMP read barrier with C11 acquire fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  8:16   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-31 14:47   ` Morten Brørup
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 14/32] crypto/virtio: update comment reference to rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 15/32] event/sw: fix unlinks in progress counter races Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-13 10:38   ` Bruce Richardson
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 16/32] event/sw: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 17/32] eal/x86: move optimized fence out of SMP barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  7:27   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 18/32] common/octeontx: remove redundant barrier in mbox Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 19/32] crypto/caam_jr: use IO barrier before job ring doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-06  6:11   ` Hemant Agrawal
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 20/32] crypto/octeontx: use IO barrier before doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 21/32] mempool/octeontx: use IO barrier in pool destroy Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 22/32] event/octeontx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 23/32] event/dpaa2: replace deprecated barrier in selftest Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-06  6:11   ` Hemant Agrawal
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 24/32] event/dsw: replace SMP barriers with release fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-31  4:37   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 25/32] event/opdl: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 26/32] net/netvsc: replace SMP barrier in RNDIS response Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 27/32] net/thunderx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 28/32] net/virtio: replace deprecated barrier in avail index update Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 29/32] eal: remove stale SMP barrier in rte_service Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 30/32] eal: remove rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 31/32] checkpatches: no longer warn about rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 32/32] doc: update release notes about rte_smp_XX removal Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:09 ` [PATCH v2 00/33] remove rte_smp_XX barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 01/33] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:36     ` Marat Khalili [this message]
2026-09-23  9:49     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 02/33] bus/vmbus: remove packed attribute from ring buffer Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:37     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 03/33] bus/vmbus: fix ring buffer ordering on weakly ordered CPUs Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:39     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 04/33] bus/vmbus: fix missing acquire on receive ring index Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:40     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 05/33] bus/vmbus: replace SMP barriers with C11 memory fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:40     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 06/33] drivers/baseband: convert rte_smp_rmb to fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 07/33] net/hinic: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 08/33] net/intel: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 09/33] net/virtio: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 10/33] net/thunderx: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 11/33] stack: always use C11 memory model implementation Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 12/33] ring: replace SMP read barrier with C11 acquire fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 13/33] crypto/virtio: update comment reference to rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 14/33] crypto/caam_jr: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 15/33] crypto/caam_jr: use IO barrier before job ring doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 16/33] crypto/octeontx: use IO barrier before doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 17/33] event/sw: fix unlinks in progress counter races Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 18/33] event/sw: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 19/33] test/barrier: test sequentially consistent fence only Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-04 12:57     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-10-05 13:45       ` Sun Yuechi
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 20/33] eal/x86: move optimized fence out of SMP barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 21/33] common/octeontx: remove redundant barrier in mbox Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 22/33] mempool/octeontx: use IO barrier in pool destroy Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 23/33] event/octeontx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 24/33] event/dpaa2: replace deprecated barrier in selftest Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 25/33] event/dsw: replace SMP barriers with release fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 26/33] event/opdl: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 27/33] net/netvsc: replace SMP barrier in RNDIS response Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  9:00     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 28/33] net/thunderx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 29/33] net/virtio: replace deprecated barrier in avail index update Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 30/33] eal: remove stale SMP barrier in rte_service Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 31/33] eal: remove rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 32/33] checkpatches: no longer warn about rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 33/33] doc: update release notes about rte_smp_XX removal Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-07 15:29   ` [PATCH v2 00/33] remove rte_smp_XX barrier David Marchand
2026-10-08 23:34 ` [PATCH v3 00/29] remove rte_smp_XX barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 01/29] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 02/29] bus/vmbus: remove packed attribute from ring buffer Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 03/29] bus/vmbus: fix ring buffer ordering on weakly ordered CPUs Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 04/29] bus/vmbus: fix missing acquire on receive ring index Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 05/29] bus/vmbus: replace SMP barriers with C11 memory fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 06/29] drivers/baseband: convert rte_smp_rmb to fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 07/29] net/hinic: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 08/29] net/intel: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 09/29] net/virtio: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 10/29] net/thunderx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 11/29] stack: always use C11 memory model implementation Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 12/29] ring: replace SMP read barrier with C11 acquire fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 13/29] crypto/virtio: update comment reference to rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 14/29] crypto/caam_jr: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 15/29] crypto/caam_jr: use IO barrier before job ring doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 16/29] crypto/octeontx: use IO barrier before doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 17/29] event/sw: fix unlinks in progress counter races Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 18/29] event/sw: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 19/29] test/barrier: convert to " Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 20/29] eal/x86: move optimized fence out of SMP barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 21/29] common/octeontx: remove redundant barrier in mbox Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 22/29] mempool/octeontx: use IO barrier in pool destroy Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 23/29] event/octeontx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 24/29] event/dpaa2: replace deprecated barrier in selftest Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 25/29] event/dsw: replace SMP barriers with release fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 26/29] event/opdl: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 27/29] net/virtio: replace deprecated barrier in avail index update Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 28/29] eal: remove stale SMP barrier in rte_service Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 29/29] eal: remove rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger

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