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From: "Nick Wang" <nwang@suse.com>
To: <drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com>
Subject: Re: [Drbd-dev] [PATCH] drbd-utils: Fix the default node id initialization when upgrade v8 to v9
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:14:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <587F4E0202000070000AC43C@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170116103502.GF9172@soda.linbit>

>>> On 1/16/2017 at  6:35 下午, in message <20170116103502.GF9172@soda.linbit>,
Lars Ellenberg <lars.ellenberg@linbit.com> wrote:
> > > Also, IMO, in virtually all 8 -> 9 upgrade scenarios, you are better off
> > > creating new DRBD 9 meta data instead of trying to "convert”.
> > 
> > Is there a technical reason
> 
> There are two basic scenarios, "rolling" upgrade,
> and "stop, replace, and restart the world". 
> 
> "stop the world" obviously means downtime.
> But for the "rolling" upgrade,
> you need more steps and at least a switchover,
> which typically also implies a downtime.
> 
> My preferred upgrade procedure would be "replace the world"
>  * make sure all data is "stable" and in sync
>  * stop all services (yes, that means a short down time)
>  * upgrade modules
>  * recreate meta data, and prepare to skip the initial sync,
>    because we know everything is in sync (see first step)
>    potentially allocating more bitmap slots in preparation for N > 2.
>  * bring it all online.
> 
> If that is not acceptable, or you think the rolling upgrade incurs less
> service interruption, you go with the "upgrade meta data in place"
> procedure, and hope we got that right :-)
> 
The rolling upgrade as long as the network protocol support can 
shorten the downtime to the switch-over time. If all data is in sync, 
i think the md(activity log and bitmaps) is safe to be replaced.

So far, for all the scenarios i tried, both "convert meta data" for still 
2 nodes and "replace meta data with a new one" for adding more nodes
works for a rolling upgrade on secondary node when all data is in sync:)

Best regards,
Nick

      reply	other threads:[~2017-01-18  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-13  6:15 [Drbd-dev] [PATCH] drbd-utils: Fix the default node id initialization when upgrade v8 to v9 Nick Wang
2017-01-13  9:00 ` Roland Kammerer
2017-01-13 11:03 ` Lars Ellenberg
2017-01-16  2:30   ` Nick Wang
     [not found]   ` <F749D893-B652-4BA8-AA15-AD88344EE2F9@acsalaska.com>
2017-01-16 10:35     ` Lars Ellenberg
2017-01-18  3:14       ` Nick Wang [this message]

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