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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Vincent ABRIOU <vincent.abriou@st.com>
Cc: Yannick FERTRE <yannick.fertre@st.com>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Fabien DESSENNE <fabien.dessenne@st.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] drm: get fbdev size from cmdline mode if it exists
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:11:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12493536.PXvhuHazFS@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b4a5852-e080-3b17-0c46-99bdcb5ceb19@st.com>

Hi Vincent,

On Wednesday 11 Jan 2017 09:03:07 Vincent ABRIOU wrote:
> On 01/11/2017 08:48 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:06:44PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 10 Jan 2017 13:33:29 Vincent ABRIOU wrote:
> >>> On 01/10/2017 12:39 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:21:09PM +0100, Vincent Abriou wrote:
> >>>>> In case no connector is found while creating the fbdev, gives the
> >>>>> possibility to specify the default fbdev size by firstly checking if
> >>>>> the command line is defining a preferred mode. Else go into fallback
> >>>>> and set 1024x768 fbdev size as it was already done.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Cc: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Vincent Abriou <vincent.abriou@st.com>
> >>>> 
> >>>> btw on all this there's also the possible solution to delay setup of
> >>>> the fbdev until the first connector switches to connected, and then
> >>>> only allocting the fb and doing the setup. Tegra has that, and Thierry
> >>>> did some patches to move that logic into the fb helpers. But there's
> >>>> some locking issues that need to be fixed first, hence why those
> >>>> patches haven't landed yet.
> >>>> 
> >>>> But if you never probe the right mode, this here sounds like a good
> >>>> idea too.
> >>> 
> >>> The early creation of fbdev is useful for userland system. If fbdev
> >>> creation is delayed until first connector is connected, userland systems
> >>> startup could fails (like Android that check fbdev availability at
> >>> startup).
> >>> 
> >>> Today if no connector is connected, a default 1024x768 fbdev is created
> >>> but it does not necessarily match the targeted CRTC size. When the
> >>> connector is connected, fbdev is not reconfigured with the targeted CRTC
> >>> size and it is anyway too late for the userland to take into account new
> >>> fbdev size. Reading the cmdline is an easy way to solve this.
> >> 
> >> Isn't it another case of working around userspace issue in the kernel ?
> >> Shouldn't the offending userspace code be fixed ? And while at it, moved
> >> from fbdev to DRM/KMS ? :-) I wrote a proof-of-concept patch a few years
> >> ago to use DRM/KMS in the Android init process. I'm sure it doesn't
> >> apply cleanly anymore, but I can share it if you're interested.
> 
> Android is one example and it still give the possibility to start with
> fbdev. I'm not trying to fixe userspace issue (there is so many userspaces
> :)). The default case to set fbdev to 1024x768 already exist in the drm fb
> helpers. I just add a way to be flexible.

Sure, I understand that. My point is that, instead of making life easy for 
userspace that hasn't switched to DRM/KMS yet, wouldn't it be time to push 
them a bit more ?

> > So android still doesn't boot without fbdev? I thought that's been fixed

I haven't checked the latest version to be honest.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-11 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-10 11:21 [PATCH v2] drm: get fbdev size from cmdline mode if it exists Vincent Abriou
2017-01-10 11:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-10 13:33   ` Vincent ABRIOU
2017-01-10 20:06     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-11  7:48       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-11  9:03         ` Vincent ABRIOU
2017-01-11 11:11           ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2017-01-11 12:31             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-11 12:40             ` Vincent ABRIOU

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