From: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
To: Chris Healy <cphealy@gmail.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, etnaviv@lists.freedesktop.org,
Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/etnaviv: add etnaviv cooling device
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:19:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1490001575.2895.8.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFXsbZoT22pz2CuRWaQ2M2TyomNcByHc-SfmNn6=KrfNaubnjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Am Sonntag, den 19.03.2017, 13:03 -0700 schrieb Chris Healy:
> I don't have any input on this binary divider subject but I do want to
> bring up some observations regarding Etnaviv GPU power management that
> seems relevant.
>
> I've done some comparisons between the Freescale Vivante GPU driver
> stack (1) and the Marvell PXA1928 Vivante GPU driver stack (2) and see
> more functionality in the PXA1928 stack than the Freescale i.MX6 stack
> that may be of value for Etnaviv. When I look at the Marvell PXA1928
> Vivante GPU driver stack, (2) I see "gpufreq" code (3) that includes
> support for conservative, ondemand, performance, powersave, and
> userspace governors. Additionally, AFAIK the key feature needed to
> support a gpufreq driver and associated governors is to be able to
> know what the load is on the GPU. When looking at the PXA1928 driver,
> it seems that it is looking at some load counters within the GPU that
> are likely to be common across platforms. (Check
> "gpufreq_get_gpu_load" (4) in gpufreq.c.)
>
> Also, given the wealth of counters present in the 3DGPU and my
> understanding that there are 3 different controllable GPU frequencies
> (at least with the i.MX6), it seems that one could dynamically adjust
> each of these 3 different controllable frequencies independently based
> on associated load counters. The i.MX6 has 3 different frequencies,
> IIRC, AXI, 3DGPU core, and 3DGPU shader. I believe there are counters
> associated with each of these GPU sub-blocks so it seems feasible to
> adjust each of the 3 buses based on the sub-block load. (I'm no
> expert by any means with any of this so this may be crazy talk...)
>
> If my observations are correct that the gpufreq functionality present
> in the PXA1928 driver is portable across SoC platforms with the
> Vivante 3D GPUs, does it make sense to add a gpufreq driver with the
> Etnaviv driver?
>
> What are the benefits and drawbacks of implementing a gpufreq driver
> with associated governors in comparison to adding this cooling device
> driver functionality? (It seems to me that a gpufreq driver is more
> proactive and the cooling device is more reactive.)
>
> Can and should gpufreq driver functionality (such as that present in
> the PXA1928 driver) and the proposed cooling device functionality
> co-exist?
Yes, probably we want to have both at some point. The cooling-device
stuff is about throttling the GPU when the SoC reaches critical
temperatures.
The devfreq governors are about providing exactly the right performance
point.
Though as I have not yet seen any SoCs where the voltage would be scaled
with GPU frequency, downclocking the GPU is of limited value. For most
of those SoCs a race-to-idle policy is probably okay, as this allows
other components of the system like the DRAM to go into lower power
operating modes when the GPU is idle.
Regards,
Lucas
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-12 19:00 [PATCH] drm/etnaviv: add etnaviv cooling device Russell King
2017-03-15 13:03 ` Lucas Stach
2017-03-15 14:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-19 20:03 ` Chris Healy
2017-03-19 20:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-20 9:19 ` Lucas Stach [this message]
2017-03-20 9:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-20 9:21 ` Lucas Stach
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