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From: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: "Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/32] drm/exynos: Split manager/display/subdrv
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 00:04:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1782082.tZWATq3Lue@flatron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMj7N0KF=a2R1-aubHvqCo+TCre7bn1EY1vqGvxyJrUruw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 26 of November 2013 10:00:13 Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 of November 2013 12:51:11 Sean Paul wrote:
> >> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Sean,
> >> >
> >> > On Tuesday 29 of October 2013 12:12:58 Sean Paul wrote:
> >> >> This patch splits display and manager from subdrv. The result is that
> >> >> crtc functions can directly call into manager callbacks and encoder
> >> >> functions can directly call into display callbacks. This will allow
> >> >> us to remove the exynos_drm_hdmi shim and support mixer/hdmi & fimd/dp
> >> >> with common code.
> >> >>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>
> >> >> ---
> >> >>
> >> >> Changes in v2:
> >> >>       - Pass display into display_ops instead of context
> >> >> Changes in v3:
> >> >>       - Changed vidi args to exynos_drm_display instead of void
> >> >>       - Moved exynos_drm_hdmi.c removal into next patch
> >> >>
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_connector.c |  50 ++---
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_core.c      | 181 +++++++++++++-----
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_crtc.c      | 115 +++++++++---
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_crtc.h      |  20 +-
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_drv.c       |  29 +--
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_drv.h       | 106 +++++++----
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_encoder.c   | 258 ++++----------------------
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_encoder.h   |  18 +-
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_fb.c        |   4 +-
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_fimd.c      | 161 ++++++++--------
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_hdmi.c      | 211 +++++++++------------
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_hdmi.h      |   2 +
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_plane.c     |  15 +-
> >> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_vidi.c      | 129 ++++++-------
> >> >>  14 files changed, 615 insertions(+), 684 deletions(-)
> >> >
> >> > This patch is really heavy, making it very hard to review. I wonder if it
> >> > couldn't really be split into several smaller patches...
> >> >
> >>
> >> I've distilled it down as much as possible. Unfortunately the
> >> encoder/crtc were fused pretty tightly and the effects of that are
> >> far-reaching.
> >
> > I was afraid of this. Well, I guess nothing can be done about it then.
> >
> >>
> >> > Anyway, please see my comments below, for the points I haven't overlooked
> >> > due to the complexity of this patch.
> >> >
> >> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_core.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_core.c
> >> >> index 08ca4f9..e76098d 100644
> >> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_core.c
> >> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/exynos/exynos_drm_core.c
> >> >> @@ -16,11 +16,14 @@
> >> >>  #include <drm/drmP.h>
> >> >>  #include <drm/bridge/ptn3460.h>
> >> >
> >> > Huh? Including a specific bridge chip inside a generic Exynos DRM core?
> >> > I know this is not a part of this patch, but... this is _broken_.
> >> >
> >> > You may want to support multiple bridge chips in Exynos DRM core and you
> >> > may also want to support PTN3460 in other DRM cores. It can't be done this
> >> > way.
> >> >
> >> > This series is very nice, but the whole effect is destroyed by basing it
> >> > on top of such insanity... Please rebase it on top of something more
> >> > reasonable (preferably Inki's next branch directly).
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well, that was blunt. Unfortunately, I don't know how else to do this
> >> other than this broken, unreasonable and insane way.
> >
> > Sorry, this might have been a bit too harsh, but just imagine myself doing
> > my regular patch review round, hoping (as usual) to see only code that is
> > not less than great, while suddenly stumbling upon a line of code that
> > I would expect at most in some vendor tree or maybe several years ago in
> > sources of a 2.4 kernel.
> 
> More like code written in the same style as x86 DRM stuff, where
> they're not used to overabstracting things from day one to make things
> generic instead of supporting the only known chip combination to date.

No, not really. They don't have any modularity on x86. Just a graphics
card with everything on it, so they can freely do such things, as they
don't have to account for all we need to account for on ARM platforms.

Also, I wouldn't call making a driver usable and useful for more than
just one fixed platform "overabstracting"...

> 
> 
> >> This has already been discussed at length in a few other places.
> >> Without some help from the drm layer, I don't see any other way to do
> >> this than to enumerate the possible bridges in each drm driver.
> >>
> >> I based the current set off the "Add some missing bits for
> >> exynos5250-snow" series I sent up a little while ago. This set was
> >> sent to the relevant dt people, acked by Olof, and there are no
> >> outstanding review comments. Since it's required for me to test on
> >> Real Hardware, I assumed this was an appropriate base.
> >>
> >> If you think this is _broken_, unreasonable, and insane, I'd love to
> >> hear an alternative.
> >
> > Well, I should say that Laurent would probably have something to say about
> > this, but I understand that the really good solution need to take some
> > time to be developed, so...
> >
> > What about at least creating a minimal, temporary abstraction layer that
> > would provide all you originally needed from drm/bridge/ptn3460.h, but in
> > a bridge chip agnostic way?
> >
> > I believe we already have established Device Tree bindings for video
> > interfaces (used currently by V4L) and you can safely use them to bind
> > your video devices together. Based on this assumption, you can implement
> > a local parser for a subset of those bindings that is enough to achieve
> > everything you need - bind a bridge to a video output of the SoC.
> >
> > As for your explicit need to include headers of particular bridges,
> > looking at your Chromium kernel sources[1] I can see that all you need
> > is an init routine for the bridge. A rewritten find_bridge() that would
> > instead take some generic cookie of a device driving a connector could
> > return a generic (exynos_)drm_bridge cookie that could be further used
> > to call functions like (exynos_)drm_bridge_init(), which would then
> > use the cookie to call appropriate bridge-specific init function.
> >
> > Of course, as a temporary solution, this can be made Exynos-specific,
> > but this won't add dependencies on particular bridge chips to Exynos DRM
> > core.
> 
> On the other hand, there's a chance more abstraction than that is
> needed when the second or third chip is added. Until then, there's
> little point in doing premature work on abstracting too much of it
> out. I'd rather see the code go in sooner and iterate in the tree.

First of all, this is heavily Chromebook specific and that's not the only
Exynos-based platform using Exynos DRM. In fact, before conversion to DT,
we had full support for parallel and DSI displays on several Exynos4 based
boards.

I really regret that we allowed for such regression back then, but now
the only thing we can do about it is to at least not make a step backwards
with this and make DRM bridge something useful (or at least usable).

Best regards,
Tomasz

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-28 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-29 16:12 [PATCH v3 00/32] drm/exynos: Refactor parts of the exynos driver Sean Paul
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/32] drm/exynos: Remove useless slab.h include Sean Paul
2013-10-31 10:24   ` Inki Dae
2013-10-31 23:32   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/32] drm/exynos: Merge overlay_ops into manager_ops Sean Paul
2013-10-31 23:39   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-01 19:50     ` Sean Paul
2013-11-01 19:55       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-04  7:44         ` Inki Dae
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/32] drm/exynos: Add an initialize function to manager and display Sean Paul
2013-10-31 23:42   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/32] drm/exynos: Use manager_op initialize in fimd Sean Paul
2013-10-31 23:49   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-01 19:51     ` Sean Paul
2013-11-01 19:57       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 05/32] drm/exynos: hdmi: Implement initialize op for hdmi Sean Paul
2013-10-31 23:53   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-01 19:54     ` Sean Paul
2013-11-01 19:56       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-01 20:08         ` Sean Paul
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 06/32] drm/exynos: Pass exynos_drm_manager in manager ops instead of dev Sean Paul
2013-11-01  0:19   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-01 20:01     ` Sean Paul
2013-11-01 20:11       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 07/32] drm/exynos: Remove apply manager callback Sean Paul
2013-11-08 21:05   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 08/32] drm/exynos: Remove dpms link between encoder/connector Sean Paul
2013-11-08 21:45   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 09/32] drm/exynos: Rename display_op power_on to dpms Sean Paul
2013-11-08 22:09   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 10/32] drm/exynos: Don't keep dpms state in encoder Sean Paul
2013-11-10 20:47   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/32] drm/exynos: Use unsigned long for possible_crtcs Sean Paul
2013-11-10 20:47   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/32] drm/exynos: Split manager/display/subdrv Sean Paul
2013-10-31 10:30   ` Inki Dae
2013-10-31 16:08     ` Sean Paul
2013-11-01  4:20       ` Inki Dae
2013-11-10 21:09   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-12 17:51     ` Sean Paul
2013-11-12 18:35       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-26 18:00         ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-27 10:04           ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-28 23:04           ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2013-11-29  7:52             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-11-29  9:10               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-29 10:25                 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-11-29 14:13                 ` Rob Clark
2013-11-29 17:05                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-29 18:35                     ` Rob Clark
2013-11-30  5:25                       ` Inki Dae
2013-12-03 21:38                     ` Sean Paul
2013-11-29 10:16             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-29 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/32] drm/exynos: hdmi: remove the i2c drivers and use devtree Sean Paul
2013-11-10 20:46   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-11  8:44     ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-28 13:30       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-29 10:24         ` Thierry Reding
2013-12-03  0:37           ` Olof Johansson
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 14/32] drm/exynos: Remove exynos_drm_hdmi shim Sean Paul
2013-11-10 21:24   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 15/32] drm/exynos: Use drm_mode_copy to copy modes Sean Paul
2013-11-10 21:27   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 16/32] drm/exynos: Disable unused crtc planes from crtc Sean Paul
2013-11-10 21:29   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 17/32] drm/exynos: Add mode_set manager operation Sean Paul
2013-11-10 21:31   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 18/32] drm/exynos: Implement mode_fixup " Sean Paul
2013-11-10 21:33   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 19/32] drm/exynos: Use mode_set to configure fimd Sean Paul
2013-11-10 22:03   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-15 13:49     ` Daniel Kurtz
2013-11-15 13:53     ` Daniel Kurtz
2013-11-28 22:57       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-04 22:37       ` Sean Paul
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 20/32] drm/exynos: Remove unused/useless fimd_context members Sean Paul
2013-11-11  1:19   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 21/32] drm/exynos: Move dp driver from video/ to drm/ Sean Paul
2013-10-31 10:46   ` Inki Dae
2013-10-31 16:05     ` Sean Paul
2013-10-31 23:06     ` Jingoo Han
2013-10-31 23:11       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-31 23:23         ` Jingoo Han
2013-10-31 23:27           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-31 23:55             ` Jingoo Han
2013-11-01  0:01               ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]   ` <3513711.0qTZKxmOZX@flatron>
2013-12-04 23:07     ` Sean Paul
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 22/32] drm/exynos: Move display implementation into dp Sean Paul
     [not found]   ` <1383063198-10526-23-git-send-email-seanpaul-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11  1:53     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 23/32] ARM: dts: Move display-timings node from fimd to dp Sean Paul
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 24/32] drm/exynos: Implement dpms display callback in DP Sean Paul
2013-11-11  2:04   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 25/32] drm/exynos: Clean up FIMD power on/off routines Sean Paul
2013-10-31 10:54   ` Inki Dae
     [not found]     ` <1630995.NnKzZB9Rl5@flatron>
2013-11-11  4:08       ` Inki Dae
2013-11-11  2:09   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 26/32] drm/exynos: Consolidate suspend/resume in drm_drv Sean Paul
2013-11-29 14:58   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-19 16:48   ` Inki Dae
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 27/32] drm/exynos: Add create_connector callback Sean Paul
2013-11-11  2:19   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-03  5:01   ` Inki Dae
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 28/32] drm/exynos: Implement drm_connector in hdmi directly Sean Paul
2013-11-29 15:58   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-02  9:46     ` Thierry Reding
2013-12-02  9:54       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 29/32] drm/exynos: Implement drm_connector directly in dp driver Sean Paul
2013-11-29 16:04   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-03  4:45   ` Inki Dae
2013-12-04  6:46     ` Inki Dae
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 30/32] drm/exynos: Implement drm_connector directly in vidi driver Sean Paul
2013-11-29 16:13   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-03  4:47   ` Inki Dae
2013-12-04  6:47     ` Inki Dae
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 31/32] drm/exynos: Move lvds bridge discovery into DP driver Sean Paul
2013-11-29 16:55   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-30  5:18     ` Inki Dae
2013-11-30 12:27       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-10-29 16:13 ` [PATCH v3 32/32] drm/exynos: Remove the exynos_drm_connector shim Sean Paul
2013-11-29 16:14   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-07  5:48 ` [PATCH v3 00/32] drm/exynos: Refactor parts of the exynos driver Inki Dae
2013-11-07 18:20   ` Sean Paul
2013-11-08 21:01   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-08 21:22     ` Sean Paul

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