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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@shipmail.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] [RFC] fair-lru eviction
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 22:13:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100519201341.GD3537@viiv.ffwll.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF44145.1020006@shipmail.org>

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 09:51:33PM +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> Daniel,
> TTM releases the spinlock protecting the drm_mm manager in between
> evictions to be able to wait (without holding locks) for bo idle.
> That means that the lru list may have changed between the first
> eviction and the next. In practice, drivers either don't allow
> simultaneous bo validation or should disallow it if thrashing is
> likely to occur, so the likelyhood of the lru list changing in
> between evictions should be small but it needs to be taken into
> account.

Well, in my opinion ttm locking optimize for the wrong case: Usually there
should be a little bit of room free to fully pipeline everything. And if
it there is no room free anymore, performance is gonna dip anyway, so we
might as well block. I think the linux vm with the split between
asynchronous background writeback and synchronous writeback in case of low
amounts of free memory could be used as inspiration.

Whatever, I think ttm could use this fair eviction stuff even with the
current locking scheme: Do all the accounting under the spinlock, i.e.
- scanning the lru
- building up the eviction list
- mark the memory blocks as free (with drm_mm_put_block)
- reserve the complete free hole (needs a new function in drm_mm, but
  range-restricted allocations are not yet implemented yet, anyway) with a
  temporary object.

Then do the effective eviction outside the spinlock. iirc ttm already uses
such shadow (dunno what they're really called) objects for buffer moves.

> Nevertheless, the drm_mm.c cleanup is
> Acked-by: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmwgfx.com>

Does that include the drm_mm_node->private pointer removal? Jerome naked
that one (but I've objected). Just to clarify.

> I'll leave it to the Intel guys to comment on the fair eviction stuff.
> 
> /Thomas

Thanks, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Mail: daniel@ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-19 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18 21:11 [PATCH 0/9] [RFC] fair-lru eviction Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 1/9] list.h: add list_for_each_entry_safe_from_reverse Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 2/9] drm: use list_for_each_entry in drm_mm.c Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 3/9] drm: kill drm_mm_node->private Daniel Vetter
2010-05-19  9:25   ` Jerome Glisse
2010-05-19 17:03     ` Daniel Vetter
2010-05-19 22:04       ` Jerome Glisse
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 4/9] drm: kill dead code in drm_mm.c Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 5/9] drm: sane naming for drm_mm.c Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 6/9] drm_mm: extract check_free_mm_node Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 7/9] drm: implement helper functions for scanning lru list Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 8/9] drm/i915: prepare for fair lru eviction Daniel Vetter
2010-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH 9/9] drm/i915: implement " Daniel Vetter
2010-05-19  3:05 ` [PATCH 0/9] [RFC] fair-lru eviction Eric Anholt
2010-05-19  8:06 ` Chris Wilson
2010-05-19 16:57   ` Daniel Vetter
2010-05-19 17:09     ` Chris Wilson
2010-05-19 19:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2010-05-19 20:13   ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2010-05-19 21:08     ` Thomas Hellstrom

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