From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
Cc: "linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
"seth.forshee@canonical.com" <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
"joeyli.kernel@gmail.com" <joeyli.kernel@gmail.com>,
"daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"lenb@kernel.org" <lenb@kernel.org>, "rjw@sisk.pl" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Backlight control only in the kernel?
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:04:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130807110406.GD17920@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1375871766.10292.7.camel@x230.lan>
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 10:36:08AM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Not really. The ACPI driver is able to do this because the events and
> the backlight are associated with the same device.
Well, it doesn't work at least in my case.
I need to echo stuff into /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight :(
> We could potentially make something work with GPU backlight drivers
> since their PCI device should also be associated with the backlight
> device, but things get complicated quickly - once ddcci support
> is hooked up you'll also have kernel backlight devices for some
> external monitors, and now you need to make a policy decision about
> which display should be controlled in response to the keypress. One
> reasonable choice would be whichever display contains the currently
> focused window, which is obviously out of scope for the kernel.
>
> So if we're going to do this then we need a generalised mechanism
> in-kernel for connecting input devices to backlight devices, and we
> need a mechanism for disabling it when userspace knows better. This
> sounds like a lot of work for something that should really just be
> handled by userspace already.
That's easy: single-monitor setups have it enabled by default. So every
laptop out there will just work, without any userspace intervention.
More complicated situations are presented with the opportunity to
disable the kernel-side control and do it themselves.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
--
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-07 11:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-09 23:01 [PATCH 0/3] Fix backlight issues on some Windows 8 systems Matthew Garrett
2013-06-09 23:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] acpi: video: add function to support unregister backlight interface Matthew Garrett
2013-06-09 23:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] ACPICA: Add interface for getting latest OS version requested via _OSI Matthew Garrett
2013-06-09 23:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] i915: Don't provide ACPI backlight interface if firmware expects Windows 8 Matthew Garrett
2013-06-10 7:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-10 9:22 ` joeyli
2013-06-10 14:09 ` Alex Deucher
2013-06-14 6:47 ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-14 17:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 1:26 ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15 1:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 4:14 ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15 4:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 12:29 ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15 15:16 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 18:29 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-15 18:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 20:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-15 20:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-05 12:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-05 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-05 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-05 22:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-06 5:45 ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-06 13:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-07 13:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-08 8:00 ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-13 0:46 ` [Update][PATCH] ACPI / video / i915: Remove ACPI backlight " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-15 2:36 ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-15 11:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-16 3:24 ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-16 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-15 13:06 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-15 23:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-16 7:45 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-16 13:32 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-16 17:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-16 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-17 5:16 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-17 11:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-17 12:03 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-06-10 11:59 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix backlight issues on some Windows 8 systems Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-10 13:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-11 13:08 ` Seth Forshee
2013-06-22 21:46 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 16:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 16:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-25 16:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 20:43 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 20:54 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:10 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 21:14 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:30 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 21:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:46 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 21:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-17 15:51 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-07-17 19:57 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-07-18 0:16 ` [Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-18 0:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] ACPICA: expose OSI version Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-18 5:38 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-18 0:21 ` [PATCH 2/3] ACPI / video: Always call acpi_video_init_brightness() on init Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-18 5:40 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-18 0:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] ACPI / video / i915: No ACPI backlight if firmware expects Windows 8 Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-20 13:16 ` [Update][PATCH 0/3] Fix backlight issues on some Windows 8 systems Felipe Contreras
2013-07-31 0:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-31 0:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-31 6:48 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-31 9:08 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-07 7:44 ` Backlight control only in the kernel? Borislav Petkov
2013-08-07 9:03 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-07 10:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-07 10:36 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-07 11:04 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
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