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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Jyri Sarha <jsarha@ti.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, peter.ujfalusi@ti.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, tomi.valkeinen@ti.com,
	arnaud.pouliquen@st.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com, tony@atomide.com,
	broonie@kernel.org, bcousson@baylibre.com,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] drm/i2c: tda998x: Add support of a DT graph of ports
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:21:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160226112159.GO5783@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56D02594.4020407@ti.com>

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:14:44PM +0200, Jyri Sarha wrote:
> On 02/26/16 02:43, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 03:42:50PM +0200, Jyri Sarha wrote:
> >>On 02/18/16 16:35, Rob Herring wrote:
> >>>This should be implied from the port unit address. In other words,
> >>>port@0 is defined to be the rgb port. Now, if this is one of several
> >>>modes for the video port, then that is a different story.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Do you suggest that also the audio i2s and s/p-dif port-types should be
> >>coded in the port unit addresses? Something like: port@0 is always rgb,
> >>port@1 is i2s, and port@2 is spdif?
> >
> >For the audio inputs, the port address corresponds to the input pin.
> >TDA998x devices can have multiple streams routed to the pins, and can
> >select between them.
> >
> >For example, there may be four I2S data pins and one I2S clock pin.
> >When using stereo, you can select which of the four I2S data pins
> >carries the audio data.
> >
> 
> Sure, but I do not think that would be the usual setup. The only "normal"
> situation I can think for having a need to have two alternative audio setups
> would one for i2s and another for s/p-dif. But then again it is possible to
> come up with a design with multiple alternative audio wirings and it
> relatively simple handle that in DT binding, so why not.

There's another reason: if you want to support 8 channel audio using I2S
rather than SPDIF, then you need to use four I2S data inputs.  Each I2S
data input can support only two channels.

> >When using SPDIF, there may be two SPDIF inputs, and you can select
> >which SPDIF input is used.
> >
> >So, "reg" may not be an address in terms of a CPU visible address, but
> >it's an address as far as selecting the appropriate input - and it
> >fits in with the requirements of ePAPR, which are that if you have
> >a unit-address (which is required to distinguish different port nodes)
> >then you must have a matching "reg" property.
> 
> Still I do not see why it is desirable to reuse reg property, when we can
> introduce new property for describing the audio wiring.

Different people have different opinions.  Your opinion is just another
example of someone holding a different view.

You _have_ to have a unit address, and therefore you _have_ to have a
reg property.  If you want to use some other property to describe the
audio input pin, then you will need to make up a totally ficticious
unit-address and reg property for each audio input pin.

That's adding complexity, arguably unnecessary complexity, and making
the binding unnecessarily more complex for no good reason.

> >I don't particularly like the video node using the RGB routing register
> >value either for the reg property, but I've kept quiet because I have
> >nothing to offer there: again, this comes down to ePAPR requirements
> >and the need to specify multiple "port { }" nodes.  You can't have two
> >"port { }" nodes without using a unit-address, and we'd need to chose
> >a unit-address for it which doesn't conflict with the audio ports...
> >so there's a kind of logic to using the RGB routing value, which will
> >never conflict.
> >
> 
> If we after all decide to go with using reg property for audio wiring (and
> essentially writing the value directly to AP_ENA register), then we could
> also agree that video port's unit address is always 0 as it corresponds to
> audio disabled in AP_ENA register and would not collide with any audio
> "address". Then we could keep the old video-ports property to configure the
> video wiring. How does this sound?

Sub-standard :)

This has actually been discussed before.  See the thread:

"[PATCH v9 1/4] drm/i2c: tda998x: Add DT support for audio"

from January 2015.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-26 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-17 14:49 [PATCH RFC v5 0/8] Implement generic ASoC HDMI codec and use it in tda998x Jyri Sarha
2016-02-17 14:49 ` [PATCH RFC v5 1/8] ALSA: pcm: add IEC958 channel status helper for hw_params Jyri Sarha
2016-02-17 14:49 ` [PATCH RFC v5 2/8] ASoC: hdmi-codec: Add hdmi-codec for external HDMI-encoders Jyri Sarha
2016-02-22 14:22   ` Arnaud Pouliquen
2016-03-08 16:59   ` Arnaud Pouliquen
     [not found] ` <cover.1455720381.git.jsarha-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-17 14:49   ` [PATCH RFC v5 3/8] ASoC: hdmi-codec: Add audio abort() callback for video side to use Jyri Sarha
2016-02-17 14:49 ` [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] drm/i2c: tda998x: Add support of a DT graph of ports Jyri Sarha
     [not found]   ` <842e221030a0b14bc862790eb2f5bc97bb29c012.1455720381.git.jsarha-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-18 14:35     ` Rob Herring
2016-02-18 15:18       ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-02-18 15:32         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-25 13:42       ` Jyri Sarha
     [not found]         ` <56CF04DA.8080905-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-26  0:43           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-26 10:14             ` Jyri Sarha
2016-02-26 11:21               ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2016-02-29 10:36                 ` Jyri Sarha
2016-03-01 14:26                   ` Alternative binding proposal for tda998x audio (Was: Re: [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] drm/i2c: tda998x: Add support of a DT graph of ports) Jyri Sarha
2016-03-01 15:35                     ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-03-01 15:51                       ` Jyri Sarha
2016-03-01 16:16                         ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-03-01 18:29                           ` Jyri Sarha
     [not found]                             ` <56D5DF7D.7090608-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 19:26                               ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-03-02  8:34                                 ` Jyri Sarha
     [not found]                           ` <20160301171630.630a47dc00060645f89bb8ab-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-02  4:29                             ` Mark Brown
2016-02-17 14:49 ` [PATCH RFC v5 5/8] drm/i2c: tda998x: Remove include/sound/tda998x.h and fix graph parsing Jyri Sarha
2016-02-17 14:49 ` [PATCH RFC v5 6/8] drm/i2c: tda998x: Improve tda998x_configure_audio() audio related pdata Jyri Sarha
2016-02-17 14:49 ` [PATCH RFC v5 7/8] drm/i2c: tda998x: Register ASoC HDMI codec for audio functionality Jyri Sarha
2016-02-17 14:49 ` [PATCH RFC v5 8/8] ARM: dts: am335x-boneblack: Add HDMI audio support Jyri Sarha
2016-02-17 19:36   ` Robert Nelson

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