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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, dev@mblankhorst.nl,
	christian.koenig@amd.com, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] locking/ww_mutex: add ww_mutex_is_owned_by function v3
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:56:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180220235621.GD22199@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180220152158.GH25201@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 04:21:58PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 04:05:49PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> > Am 20.02.2018 um 15:54 schrieb Peter Zijlstra:
> > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 03:34:07PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> > > > > OK, but neither case would in fact need the !ctx case right? That's just
> > > > > there for completeness sake?
> > > > Unfortunately not. TTM uses trylock to lock BOs which are about to be
> > > > evicted to make room for all the BOs locked with a ctx.
> > > > 
> > > > I need to be able to distinct between the BOs which are trylocked and those
> > > > which are locked with a ctx.
> > > > 
> > > > Writing this I actually noticed the current version is buggy, cause even
> > > > when we check the mutex owner we still need to make sure that the ctx in the
> > > > lock is NULL.
> > > Hurm... I can't remember why trylocks behave like that, and it seems
> > > rather unfortunate / inconsistent.
> > 
> > Actually for me that is rather fortunate, cause I need to distinct between
> > the locks acquired through trylock and lock.
> 
> I suppose that would always be possible using:
> ww_mutex_trylock(.ctx=NULL), and it could be that there simply weren't
> any immediate uses for a !NULL trylock and it was thus not implemented.
> 
> But that is all very long ago..

I think we simple never had a use-case for interleaving ww_mutex_lock(ctx)
and ww_mutex_trylock(ctx). Nesting multiple trylocks in ctx-locks happens
plenty, but not further:

The common use-case for that is locking a bunch of buffers you need (for
command submission or whatever), and then trylocking other buffers to make
space for the buffers you need to move into VRAM. I guess if only
trylocking buffers doesn't succeed in freeing up enough VRAM then we could
go into blocking ww_mutex_locks which need the ctx (and which would need
all the trylock-acquired buffers to be annotated with the ctx too). TTM
currently tries to be far enough away from that corner case (using a
defensive "never use more than 50% of all memory for gfx" approach) that
it doesn't seem to need that.

Once we get there it should indeed be simply to add a ctx parameter to
ww_mutex_trylock to fix this case. The TTM side rework is definitely going
to be the much bigger issue here ...
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-20 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-20 12:58 [PATCH 1/4] locking/ww_mutex: add ww_mutex_is_owned_by function v3 Christian König
     [not found] ` <20180220125829.27060-1-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-20 12:58   ` [PATCH 2/4] drm/amdgpu: use new ww_mutex_is_owned_by function Christian König
     [not found]     ` <20180220125829.27060-2-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-23  9:48       ` He, Roger
2018-02-20 12:58   ` [PATCH 3/4] drm/ttm: handle already locked BOs during eviction and swapout Christian König
     [not found]     ` <20180220125829.27060-3-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-23  9:46       ` He, Roger
2018-02-23 12:05         ` Christian König
     [not found]           ` <6eadbbea-8eca-a1ab-93bb-d37ae6e5f29d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-24  3:36             ` He, Roger
     [not found]               ` <MWHPR1201MB01278E573419210283D68640FDC30-3iK1xFAIwjq9imrIu4W8xGrFom/aUZj6nBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-24  3:46                 ` He, Roger
2018-02-20 12:58   ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/ttm: keep BOs reserved until end of eviction Christian König
     [not found]     ` <20180220125829.27060-4-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-23  9:29       ` He, Roger
2018-02-20 13:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] locking/ww_mutex: add ww_mutex_is_owned_by function v3 Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <20180220131253.GF25314-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-20 13:26     ` Christian König
2018-02-20 13:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-20 14:34         ` Christian König
2018-02-20 14:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-20 15:05             ` Christian König
2018-02-20 15:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-20 23:56                 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20180220235621.GD22199-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-21 10:54                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found]                       ` <9d782099-567f-38cb-391a-3c2a50cd5edd-FcfepWsj2zOByvU0x3ry2g@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-21 11:50                         ` Christian König
2018-02-21 21:10     ` Emil Velikov
2018-02-20 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter

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