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From: Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
To: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm: Funnel drm logs to tracepoints
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 14:10:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191203191054.GA162979@art_vandelay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191017102216.20f98533@eldfell.localdomain>

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:22:16AM +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:23:45 +0200
> Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > 
> > Am 16.10.19 um 15:05 schrieb Pekka Paalanen:
> 
> > > specifically be available in production. So a new file in some fs
> > > somewhere it should be, and userspace in production can read it at will
> > > to attach to a bug report.
> > > 
> > > Those semantics, "only use this content for attaching into a bug
> > > report" should be made very clear in the UAPI.  
> > 
> > Has this ever worked? As soon as a userspace program starts depending on
> > the content of this file, it becomes kabi. From the incidents I know,
> > Linus has always been quite strict about this. Even for broken interfaces.
> 
> The kernel log content is not kabi, is it? I've seen it change plenty
> during the years. This would be just another similar log with free-form
> text.
> 

Ok, so given the more structured version of this set [1] was not well received,
are we all comfortable going with the freeform approach in this version?

Sean

[1]- https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2019-November/243230.html

> 
> Thanks,
> pq



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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-03 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-10 20:48 [PATCH] drm: Funnel drm logs to tracepoints Sean Paul
2019-10-14  8:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-10-15 11:18 ` Joonas Lahtinen
2019-10-15 12:07 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-10-15 16:18   ` Rob Clark
2019-10-15 19:11   ` Sean Paul
2019-10-15 20:02     ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-10-15 22:35       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-10-16 13:05         ` Pekka Paalanen
2019-10-16 13:23           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-10-16 15:55             ` Sean Paul
2019-10-17  7:22             ` Pekka Paalanen
2019-12-03 19:10               ` Sean Paul [this message]
2019-12-03 21:20                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-12-04  7:33                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2019-12-04  9:14                     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-12-04  9:54                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2019-12-04 13:02                         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-12-04 13:52                           ` Sean Paul

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