From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE6EC2D0A8 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25CF62075F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b="WFaQTV+k" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 25CF62075F Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D213898BF; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F06B89B05; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:19:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1601367589; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KFyfyEQCS1dcCR4BhfL+zwiQ3CuzyAy4x23tr+VkzjE=; b=WFaQTV+kmp2Dcf4ETP9+6ZNrPfy9q5pMDECagrCQ3MjluCnYeqMkFTw/YcJHGz2iksDQw9 srvpAmlMUEz2D9SjbkwSKNyTXnnl0c+U97e7qNgFVE9O8k3lMFBfs0YlvFJAzRLJyf+n+C wZ5d1Zkp/fxHdHhoVK5syk5dxSgYigs= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EE3B29F; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:19:48 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Daniel Vetter Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] preempt: Make preempt count unconditional Message-ID: <20200929081938.GC22035@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <871rj4owfn.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <87bli75t7v.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200916152956.GV29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200916205840.GD29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:09 +0000 X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Juri Lelli , Peter Zijlstra , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Lai Jiangshan , dri-devel , Ben Segall , Linux-MM , "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" , Will Deacon , Ard Biesheuvel , Anton Ivanov , linux-arch , Vincent Guittot , Herbert Xu , Brian Cain , linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, Russell King , Ingo Molnar , David Airlie , Ingo Molnar , Geert Uytterhoeven , Mel Gorman , Matt Turner , Valentin Schneider , linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, Shuah Khan , "Paul E. McKenney" , Jeff Dike , intel-gfx , alpha , linux-um , Josh Triplett , Steven Rostedt , rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k , Ivan Kokshaysky , Rodrigo Vivi , Thomas Gleixner , Dietmar Eggemann , Linux ARM , Richard Henderson , Chris Zankel , Max Filippov , Linus Torvalds , LKML , Richard Weinberger , Mathieu Desnoyers , Andrew Morton , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" On Wed 16-09-20 23:43:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > I can > then figure out whether it's better to risk not spotting issues with > call_rcu vs slapping a memalloc_noio_save/restore around all these > critical section which force-degrades any allocation to GFP_ATOMIC at did you mean memalloc_noreclaim_* here? > most, but has the risk that we run into code that assumes "GFP_KERNEL > never fails for small stuff" and has a decidedly less tested fallback > path than rcu code. Even if the above then please note that memalloc_noreclaim_* or PF_MEMALLOC should be used with an extreme care. Essentially only for internal memory reclaimers. It grants access to _all_ the available memory so any abuse can be detrimental to the overall system operation. Allocation failure in this mode means that we are out of memory and any code relying on such an allocation has to carefuly consider failure. This is not a random allocation mode. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51848C4727F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04494204FD for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b="kYjuvZ+i" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 04494204FD Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340BD6E4F1; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B218689C2C; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:21:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1601367682; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KFyfyEQCS1dcCR4BhfL+zwiQ3CuzyAy4x23tr+VkzjE=; b=kYjuvZ+ilRICWeNF3tv+sX4B6qR0l26SNFX+2yuqmAbG6VZsVdy+/ab4DWFA/2mAPMzvho sWiMi4hR4DtnoNBd3zA9aScladT2LR3g7zk3zp4xXinjBQFShKRtNv5abZ+aKM+mJdoLfs LfJPGyvdVLHOxuKwI+4KWXzshc3e4XY= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4162CACA3; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:21:21 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Daniel Vetter Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] preempt: Make preempt count unconditional Message-ID: <20200929081938.GC22035@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <871rj4owfn.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <87bli75t7v.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200916152956.GV29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200916205840.GD29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:09 +0000 X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Juri Lelli , Peter Zijlstra , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Lai Jiangshan , dri-devel , Ben Segall , Linux-MM , "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" , Will Deacon , Ard Biesheuvel , Anton Ivanov , linux-arch , Vincent Guittot , Herbert Xu , Brian Cain , linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, Russell King , Ingo Molnar , David Airlie , Ingo Molnar , Geert Uytterhoeven , Mel Gorman , Matt Turner , Valentin Schneider , linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, Shuah Khan , "Paul E. McKenney" , Jeff Dike , intel-gfx , alpha , linux-um , Josh Triplett , Steven Rostedt , rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k , Ivan Kokshaysky , Rodrigo Vivi , Thomas Gleixner , Dietmar Eggemann , Linux ARM , Richard Henderson , Chris Zankel , Max Filippov , Linus Torvalds , LKML , Richard Weinberger , Mathieu Desnoyers , Andrew Morton , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" Message-ID: <20200929082121.AayUL6cmM91WqadoeAIRDWRav6rKHqZ3AFoCCVimq9I@z> On Wed 16-09-20 23:43:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > I can > then figure out whether it's better to risk not spotting issues with > call_rcu vs slapping a memalloc_noio_save/restore around all these > critical section which force-degrades any allocation to GFP_ATOMIC at did you mean memalloc_noreclaim_* here? > most, but has the risk that we run into code that assumes "GFP_KERNEL > never fails for small stuff" and has a decidedly less tested fallback > path than rcu code. Even if the above then please note that memalloc_noreclaim_* or PF_MEMALLOC should be used with an extreme care. Essentially only for internal memory reclaimers. It grants access to _all_ the available memory so any abuse can be detrimental to the overall system operation. Allocation failure in this mode means that we are out of memory and any code relying on such an allocation has to carefuly consider failure. This is not a random allocation mode. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA283C4727F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72B3A2071E for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b="pr56FUr2" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 72B3A2071E Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C614B6E560; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 346AF89AF3; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:20:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1601367609; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KFyfyEQCS1dcCR4BhfL+zwiQ3CuzyAy4x23tr+VkzjE=; b=pr56FUr28WzVjlye8ocfuUATkeSwhUXvbjPgGkEbab2FCVC+0BKyl8PhOHOFpR/zRWD2YJ XkENxEAzZ+xaNySUfCCAfperdR1yK017PGgjlx8BHtiTSBrVceVD6B+fvb12QX9yuBiWP6 UV9FaMEAQthXh0P6zC/B1D/pMFgxjZ8= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981CFB2AE; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:20:08 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Daniel Vetter Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] preempt: Make preempt count unconditional Message-ID: <20200929081938.GC22035@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <871rj4owfn.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <87bli75t7v.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200916152956.GV29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200916205840.GD29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:09 +0000 X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Juri Lelli , Peter Zijlstra , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Lai Jiangshan , dri-devel , Ben Segall , Linux-MM , "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" , Will Deacon , Ard Biesheuvel , Anton Ivanov , linux-arch , Vincent Guittot , Herbert Xu , Brian Cain , linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, Russell King , Ingo Molnar , David Airlie , Ingo Molnar , Geert Uytterhoeven , Mel Gorman , Matt Turner , Valentin Schneider , linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, Shuah Khan , "Paul E. McKenney" , Jeff Dike , intel-gfx , alpha , linux-um , Josh Triplett , Steven Rostedt , rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k , Ivan Kokshaysky , Rodrigo Vivi , Thomas Gleixner , Dietmar Eggemann , Linux ARM , Richard Henderson , Chris Zankel , Max Filippov , Linus Torvalds , LKML , Richard Weinberger , Mathieu Desnoyers , Andrew Morton , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" Message-ID: <20200929082008.qpa3vl3lFuGVNZ-42dzF_YPLDO3Qcxr2qJsQJ7fYXVU@z> On Wed 16-09-20 23:43:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > I can > then figure out whether it's better to risk not spotting issues with > call_rcu vs slapping a memalloc_noio_save/restore around all these > critical section which force-degrades any allocation to GFP_ATOMIC at did you mean memalloc_noreclaim_* here? > most, but has the risk that we run into code that assumes "GFP_KERNEL > never fails for small stuff" and has a decidedly less tested fallback > path than rcu code. Even if the above then please note that memalloc_noreclaim_* or PF_MEMALLOC should be used with an extreme care. Essentially only for internal memory reclaimers. It grants access to _all_ the available memory so any abuse can be detrimental to the overall system operation. Allocation failure in this mode means that we are out of memory and any code relying on such an allocation has to carefuly consider failure. This is not a random allocation mode. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF53C4727C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0284C2075F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b="SSpMjosS" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 0284C2075F Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4351F6E542; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B569989996; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:19:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1601367582; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KFyfyEQCS1dcCR4BhfL+zwiQ3CuzyAy4x23tr+VkzjE=; b=SSpMjosSL8o4OPVa55QL9wIlM8PHwJpdBy+0T8Zs2+GxBxG6YA9l00PJ9Y66qcHmMfGLv9 u+g+tcEvJ7RxAvAP57LRStfEelxtPsdHOGOgFzbQCNh9qQZDiKdnSarvXzcr1YnPqWmMjI wdLRjalKNBbwgyGfH1Q3bT+vgMo4axA= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E86BADD8; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:19:38 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Daniel Vetter Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] preempt: Make preempt count unconditional Message-ID: <20200929081938.GC22035@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <871rj4owfn.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <87bli75t7v.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200916152956.GV29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200916205840.GD29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:09 +0000 X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Juri Lelli , Peter Zijlstra , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Lai Jiangshan , dri-devel , Ben Segall , Linux-MM , "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" , Will Deacon , Ard Biesheuvel , Anton Ivanov , linux-arch , Vincent Guittot , Herbert Xu , Brian Cain , linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, Russell King , Ingo Molnar , David Airlie , Ingo Molnar , Geert Uytterhoeven , Mel Gorman , Matt Turner , Valentin Schneider , linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, Shuah Khan , "Paul E. McKenney" , Jeff Dike , intel-gfx , alpha , linux-um , Josh Triplett , Steven Rostedt , rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k , Ivan Kokshaysky , Rodrigo Vivi , Thomas Gleixner , Dietmar Eggemann , Linux ARM , Richard Henderson , Chris Zankel , Max Filippov , Linus Torvalds , LKML , Richard Weinberger , Mathieu Desnoyers , Andrew Morton , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" Message-ID: <20200929081938.cbyJdX6O6NTJ9ZMmF8AHaiBljYVpkqPkpy55EWseFFw@z> On Wed 16-09-20 23:43:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > I can > then figure out whether it's better to risk not spotting issues with > call_rcu vs slapping a memalloc_noio_save/restore around all these > critical section which force-degrades any allocation to GFP_ATOMIC at did you mean memalloc_noreclaim_* here? > most, but has the risk that we run into code that assumes "GFP_KERNEL > never fails for small stuff" and has a decidedly less tested fallback > path than rcu code. Even if the above then please note that memalloc_noreclaim_* or PF_MEMALLOC should be used with an extreme care. Essentially only for internal memory reclaimers. It grants access to _all_ the available memory so any abuse can be detrimental to the overall system operation. Allocation failure in this mode means that we are out of memory and any code relying on such an allocation has to carefuly consider failure. This is not a random allocation mode. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67671C2D0A8 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0F8A2075F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b="Yx+4OiWz" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org F0F8A2075F Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203C26E56D; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83D7189C3B; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:23:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1601367805; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KFyfyEQCS1dcCR4BhfL+zwiQ3CuzyAy4x23tr+VkzjE=; b=Yx+4OiWzh8hL3oRWBVwsl7OoNxopUmSyQasLhmn1G1pwm5WeUKovPN8LH2bdOC7Tf1qJAG BQKht+ljEQ7JSXztBWuZ/SDej3VcAwduMW5YketNY8WVwtpxMMor30Pmo+P2rpxR7SkCAG TBCtVCqjpOLjck1NyY3qWCFDobpueAs= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0860EB2A1; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:23:24 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Daniel Vetter Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] preempt: Make preempt count unconditional Message-ID: <20200929081938.GC22035@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <871rj4owfn.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <87bli75t7v.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> <20200916152956.GV29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200916205840.GD29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:50:09 +0000 X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Juri Lelli , Peter Zijlstra , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Lai Jiangshan , dri-devel , Ben Segall , Linux-MM , "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" , Will Deacon , Ard Biesheuvel , Anton Ivanov , linux-arch , Vincent Guittot , Herbert Xu , Brian Cain , linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, Russell King , Ingo Molnar , David Airlie , Ingo Molnar , Geert Uytterhoeven , Mel Gorman , Matt Turner , Valentin Schneider , linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, Shuah Khan , "Paul E. McKenney" , Jeff Dike , intel-gfx , alpha , linux-um , Josh Triplett , Steven Rostedt , rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k , Ivan Kokshaysky , Rodrigo Vivi , Thomas Gleixner , Dietmar Eggemann , Linux ARM , Richard Henderson , Chris Zankel , Max Filippov , Linus Torvalds , LKML , Richard Weinberger , Mathieu Desnoyers , Andrew Morton , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" Message-ID: <20200929082324.8famVQB5auZveQpBwcIc-bLaXiTN4xv0cMhsg7igPNs@z> On Wed 16-09-20 23:43:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > I can > then figure out whether it's better to risk not spotting issues with > call_rcu vs slapping a memalloc_noio_save/restore around all these > critical section which force-degrades any allocation to GFP_ATOMIC at did you mean memalloc_noreclaim_* here? > most, but has the risk that we run into code that assumes "GFP_KERNEL > never fails for small stuff" and has a decidedly less tested fallback > path than rcu code. Even if the above then please note that memalloc_noreclaim_* or PF_MEMALLOC should be used with an extreme care. Essentially only for internal memory reclaimers. It grants access to _all_ the available memory so any abuse can be detrimental to the overall system operation. Allocation failure in this mode means that we are out of memory and any code relying on such an allocation has to carefuly consider failure. This is not a random allocation mode. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel