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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: "Hoosier, Matt" <Matt.Hoosier@garmin.com>
Cc: "dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: Internal DRI subsystem locking and contention between connector commits
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 12:18:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221007121836.61e573fa@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0607ee97b0af4b9fa8f17cb99388e214@garmin.com>

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On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 12:03:56 +0000
"Hoosier, Matt" <Matt.Hoosier@garmin.com> wrote:

> I have a DRM master implementing a purpose-built compositor for a
> dedicated use-case. It drives several different connectors, each on
> its own vsync cadence (there's no clone mode happening here).
> 
> The goal is to have commits to each connector occur completely
> without respect to whatever is happening on the other connectors.
> There's a different thread issuing the DRI ioctl's for each connector.
> 
> In the compositor, each connector is treated like its own little
> universe; a disjoint set of CRTCs and planes is earmarked for use by
> each of the connectors. One intention for this is to avoid sharing
> resources in a way that would introduce implicit synchronization
> points between the two connector's event loops. So, atomic commits
> made to one connector never attempt to use a resource that's ever
> been used in a commit to a different connector. This may be relevant
> to a question I'll ask a bit later below about resource locking
> contention.
> 
> For some time, I've been noticing that even test-only atomic commits
> done on connector A will sometimes block for many frame-times.
> Analysis with the DRI driver implementor has shown that the atomic
> commits to A--whether DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_TEST_ONLY or
> DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_NONBLOCK--are getting stuck in the ioctl entry code
> waiting for a DRI mutex.
> 
> It turns out that during these unexpected delays, the DRI driver's
> commit thread holds that mutex while servicing a commit to connector
> B. It does this while it waits for the fences to fire for all
> framebuffer IDs referred to by the pending connector B scene. So the
> commit to connector A can't be tested or enqueued until the commit to
> B is completely finished. The driver author reckons that this is
> unavoidable because every DRM_IOCTL_MODE_ATOMIC ioctl  needs to
> acquire the same global singleton DRM connection_mutex in order to
> query or manipulate the connector.
> 
> The result is that it's quite difficult to guarantee a framerate on
> connector A, because unrelated activity performed on connector B can
> hold global locks for an unpredictable amount of time.
> 
> The first question would be: does this story sound consistent? If so,
> then a couple more questions follow.
> 
> Is this kind of implicit interlocking expected? Is there any way to
> avoid the pending commits getting serialized like that on the kernel
> side?

Hi Matt,

Ville actually mentioned something very much like that recently, see
the thread at:
https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220916163331.6849-1-ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com/

If even non-blocking commits can stall test-only commits, that could be
a problem for Weston too. Weston being single-threaded wouldn't help.


Thanks,
pq

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      reply	other threads:[~2022-10-07  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-06 12:03 Internal DRI subsystem locking and contention between connector commits Hoosier, Matt
2022-10-07  9:18 ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]

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