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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>
Cc: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	 Pekka Paalanen <pekka.paalanen@haloniitty.fi>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	 Nick Hollinghurst <nick.hollinghurst@raspberrypi.com>
Subject: Re: UAPI Re: [PATCH 1/3] drm: Add DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_MONOCHROME
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:14:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240228-nice-flat-cormorant-badff7@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5us3AK9XJ5zu1AOKQeZxKWsK0f6Xtm7vHWttRTFPRo57Ph5WO62deVIK8TrkQIFmjFMrn-a2qusgP3W74dV6SKTA5OdTt4zncR7J2qQ_Qck=@emersion.fr>

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Hi,

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 09:51:06AM +0000, Simon Ser wrote:
> On Monday, February 26th, 2024 at 18:23, Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com> wrote:
> > > and I've also completely missed any kernel command line
> > > arguments manipulating KMS properties.
> > 
> > "tv_mode" on the command line is handled in
> > drm_mode_parse_cmdline_options() [3], as are rotate, reflect_x,
> > reflect_y, margin_[left|right|top|bottom], and panel_orientation all
> > to set the relevant KMS properties.
> > 
> > Having "video=Composite-1:PAL,tv_mode=Mono" on the kernel command line
> > will set up connector Composite-1 with the standard 720x576 50Hz
> > interlaced timings, and DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_MONOCHROME selected on the
> > tv_mode property. Swap in different tv_mode descriptions as required
> > (eg PAL,tv_mode=SECAM), although some make little sense.
> > 
> > That's the main route I'm looking at for configuring this property,
> > for situations such as having a black and white TV connected. You
> > don't get the opportunity to interrogate a composite display over what
> > it supports, so it has to be configured manually somewhere in the
> > system. If your monitor doesn't support the system default, then you
> > can't see a GUI in order to change the option, and there is no
> > guaranteed supported configuration so the command line is about the
> > only option.
> > 
> > The use cases for runtime switching of the "tv_mode" are exceedingly
> > rare, so IMHO the property doesn't need exposing through the UAPI.
> > However it was added to the UAPI about 8 years ago for vc4 and sunxi,
> > and is also now used by other drivers, so can't be reverted. Does that
> > mean it can now never be changed without jumping through the hoop of
> > creating some userspace user?
> 
> I don't know what the rules were 8 years ago, but the current uAPI rules
> are what they are, and a new enum entry is new uAPI.

TBF, and even if the wayland compositors support is missing, this
property is perfectly usable as it is with upstream, open-source code,
through either the command-line or X.org, and it's documented.

So it's fine by me from a UAPI requirement side.

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-28 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-16 18:48 [PATCH 0/3] vc4 VEC (analogue video) updates - margins and monochrome Dave Stevenson
2024-02-16 18:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm: Add DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_MONOCHROME Dave Stevenson
2024-02-21  9:07   ` UAPI " Pekka Paalanen
2024-02-21 15:00     ` Harry Wentland
2024-02-26 14:10     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 15:11       ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-02-26 17:23         ` Dave Stevenson
2024-02-27  9:51           ` Simon Ser
2024-02-28 16:14             ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2024-02-28 16:22               ` Simon Ser
2024-02-29 10:52                 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-23 14:51                   ` Maxime Ripard
2024-06-14  9:01                     ` Daniel Vetter
2024-06-17 13:57                       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-23 15:11                   ` Simon Ser
2024-02-29 12:55                 ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-27  9:58           ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-06-18  9:20   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-06-18  9:24   ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-16 18:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/vc4: Add monochrome mode to the VEC Dave Stevenson
2024-06-18  9:28   ` Maxime Ripard
2024-06-18 18:15     ` Dave Stevenson
2024-02-16 18:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm/vc4: vec: Add the margin properties to the connector Dave Stevenson
2024-06-18  9:29   ` Maxime Ripard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-02-22 18:13 [PATCH v7 00/36] drm/connector: Create HDMI Connector infrastructure Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 01/36] drm/tests: helpers: Include missing drm_drv header Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 10:42   ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-28 15:40   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 02/36] drm/tests: helpers: Add atomic helpers Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 12:23   ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-28 15:40   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 03/36] drm/tests: Add helper to create mock plane Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 12:24   ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-28 15:40   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 04/36] drm/tests: Add helper to create mock crtc Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 12:26   ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-28 15:40   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 05/36] drm/tests: connector: Add tests for drmm_connector_init Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 12:27   ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-28 15:40   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 06/36] drm/connector: Introduce an HDMI connector initialization function Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 07/36] drm/tests: connector: Add tests for drmm_connector_hdmi_init Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 08/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Create an HDMI sub-state Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 09/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Add output BPC to the connector state Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 10/36] drm/tests: Add output bpc tests Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 11/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Add support for output format Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 12/36] drm/tests: Add output formats tests Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 13/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Add HDMI compute clock helper Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 14/36] drm/tests: Add HDMI TDMS character rate tests Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 15/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Calculate TMDS character rate Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 16/36] drm/tests: Add TDMS character rate connector state tests Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 17/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Add custom hook to filter TMDS character rate Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 18/36] drm/tests: Add HDMI connector rate filter hook tests Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 19/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Compute bpc and format automatically Maxime Ripard
2024-02-25 13:56   ` Alex Bee
2024-02-27 14:01     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 20/36] drm/tests: Add HDMI connector bpc and format tests Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 21/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Add Broadcast RGB property Maxime Ripard
2024-02-23  9:28   ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-02-29 19:47   ` Sebastian Wick
2024-03-01  8:29     ` Hans Verkuil
2024-03-01 11:26       ` Sebastian Wick
2024-03-01 10:30     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-03-01 11:29       ` Sebastian Wick
2024-03-01 12:12         ` Maxime Ripard
2024-03-01 12:19           ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-03-01 13:15           ` Sebastian Wick
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 22/36] drm/tests: Add tests for " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 23/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Add RGB Quantization Range to the connector state Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 24/36] drm/tests: Add RGB Quantization tests Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 25/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Add Infoframes generation Maxime Ripard
2024-02-25 15:02   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-27 12:08     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 26/36] drm/tests: Add infoframes test Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 27/36] drm/connector: hdmi: Create Infoframe DebugFS entries Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 28/36] drm/vc4: hdmi: Switch to HDMI connector Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 29/36] drm/vc4: tests: Remove vc4_dummy_plane structure Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 12:29   ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-27 13:02     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-27 22:45       ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 30/36] drm/vc4: tests: Convert to plane creation helper Maxime Ripard
2024-02-26 12:30   ` Maíra Canal
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 31/36] drm/rockchip: inno_hdmi: Switch to HDMI connector Maxime Ripard
2024-02-23  9:40   ` Heiko Stübner
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 32/36] drm/sun4i: hdmi: Convert encoder to atomic Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 19:08   ` Jernej Škrabec
2024-02-26  9:55   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 33/36] drm/sun4i: hdmi: Move mode_set into enable Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 19:08   ` Jernej Škrabec
2024-02-26  9:55   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 34/36] drm/sun4i: hdmi: Switch to container_of_const Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 19:08   ` Jernej Škrabec
2024-02-26  9:55   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 35/36] drm/sun4i: hdmi: Consolidate atomic_check and mode_valid Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 19:12   ` Jernej Škrabec
2024-02-26  9:55   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 18:14 ` [PATCH v7 36/36] drm/sun4i: hdmi: Switch to HDMI connector Maxime Ripard
2024-02-22 19:14   ` Jernej Škrabec
2024-02-23 13:24   ` Sui Jingfeng
2024-02-25 14:50 ` [PATCH v7 00/36] drm/connector: Create HDMI Connector infrastructure Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-26 13:22   ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-27  4:44 [PATCH 0/4] Setting live video input format for ZynqMP DPSUB Anatoliy Klymenko
2024-02-27  4:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] drm: xlnx: zynqmp_dpsub: Set layer mode during creation Anatoliy Klymenko
2024-02-28 14:56   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-02-27  4:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] drm: xlnx: zynqmp_dpsub: Anounce supported input formats Anatoliy Klymenko
2024-02-28 15:58   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-02-29 20:07     ` Klymenko, Anatoliy
2024-02-27  4:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] drm: xlnx: zynqmp_dpsub: Set input live format Anatoliy Klymenko
2024-02-28 16:07   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-02-28 22:17     ` Klymenko, Anatoliy
2024-03-03 17:15   ` kernel test robot
2024-02-27  4:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/atomic-helper: Add select_output_bus_format callback Anatoliy Klymenko
2024-02-28 15:23   ` ECC memory semantics for heaps Maxime Ripard
2024-02-28 15:29     ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/atomic-helper: Add select_output_bus_format callback Maxime Ripard
2024-02-28 15:48     ` UAPI Re: [PATCH 1/3] drm: Add DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_MONOCHROME Maxime Ripard
2024-02-28 16:01     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-28 16:10     ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/atomic-helper: Add select_output_bus_format callback Laurent Pinchart
2024-02-28 16:16     ` [PATCH v7 29/36] drm/vc4: tests: Remove vc4_dummy_plane structure Maxime Ripard
2024-02-28 22:00     ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/atomic-helper: Add select_output_bus_format callback Klymenko, Anatoliy
2024-02-29  8:21       ` Maxime Ripard
2024-02-29  4:17     ` ECC memory semantics for heaps John Stultz
2024-03-04 13:46       ` Maxime Ripard
2024-03-04 21:12         ` John Stultz

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