From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm: Try to document legacy DPMS uapi a bit better
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:49:36 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2064328.72aZRUWF6E@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170815145519.1162-1-daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Hi Daniel,
Thank you for the patch.
On Tuesday 15 Aug 2017 16:55:19 Daniel Vetter wrote:
> Laurent asked for this.
While this is true, I'm not sure it makes a proper commit message :-)
> Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
> ---
> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 19 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c index ba9f36cef68c..b458eb488128 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> @@ -720,6 +720,25 @@ DRM_ENUM_NAME_FN(drm_get_tv_subconnector_name,
> * callback. For atomic drivers the remapping to the "ACTIVE" property is
> * implemented in the DRM core. This is the only standard connector
> * property that userspace can change.
> + *
> + * WARNING:
> + *
> + * For userspace also running on legacy drivers the "DPMS" semantics are
> + * a lot more complicated.
What is "userspace also running on legacy drivers" ? Is that userspace that is
atomic-aware and have different codes paths for atomic and non-atomic drivers,
or userspace that uses the legacy API regardless of the driver ? I assume you
mean the latter, in which case I would write it as "userspace using the legacy
non-atomic API with atomic drivers".
> First, userspace cannot rely on the "DPMS"
> + * value returned by the GETCONNECTOR actually reflecting reality,
> + * because many drivers fail to update it. For atomic drivers this is
> + * taken care of in drm_atomic_helper_update_legacy_modeset_state().
Are you talking about atomic drivers not using
drm_atomic_helper_update_legacy_modeset_state() (directly or indirectly
through the atomic commit helpers) ? Are there many of those ? They should be
fixed, I don't think we should consider this as the normal behaviour. I'd
rather explain how the connector DPMS interacts with the connector CRTC_ID and
the CRTC ACTIVE properties when the drivers get it right, and then possibly
add a warning that some drivers don't implement it correctly.
I think "reflecting reality" is also vague. What do you mean by reality ? The
fact the the DPMS property should reflect whether the connector is linked to
an active CRTC (as explained in the existing DPMS property documentation) ?
> + * The second issue is that the DPMS state is only relevant when the
> + * connector is connected to a CRTC. In atomic the DRM core enforces that
> + * "ACTIVE" is off in such a case, no such checks exists for "DPMS".
What is "such a case" ? A connector not connected to a CRTC ?
> + * Finally, when enabling an output using the legacy SETCONFIG ioctl then
> + * "DPMS" is forced to ON. But see above, that might not be reflected in
> + * the software value.
> + *
> + * Summarizing: Only set "DPMS" when the connector is known to be
> + * enabled, assume that a successful SETCONFIG call also set "DPMS" to
> + * on, and never read back the value of "DPMS" because it can be
> + * incorrect.
The need to summarize two paragraphs in a third one indicates to me that the
documentation is confusing.
> * PATH:
> * Connector path property to identify how this sink is physically
> * connected. Used by DP MST. This should be set by calling
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-15 14:55 [PATCH] drm: Try to document legacy DPMS uapi a bit better Daniel Vetter
2017-08-16 14:49 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2017-08-16 16:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-09-20 22:48 ` Eric Anholt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-09-20 22:59 Daniel Vetter
2017-09-20 23:03 ` Sean Paul
2017-09-26 5:13 ` Daniel Vetter
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