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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	"Nitesh Shetty" <nj.shetty@samsung.com>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	"Anuj Gupta" <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
	"Tushar Gohad" <tushar.gohad@intel.com>,
	"William Power" <william.power@intel.com>,
	"Phil Cayton" <phil.cayton@intel.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/10] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 10:30:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24cc68b2-c432-4623-92eb-b56b76850c35@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afxgc4hizusnAA26@fedora>

On 5/7/26 10:50, Ming Lei wrote:
...
>>> BTW, inspired by this approach, I adds similar feature to ublk via UBLK_IO_F_SHMEM_ZC
>>> which can maintain long-term vfio dma mapping over registered user-place aligned buffer.
>>
>> Interesting, just too a glance, and it looks like what David Wei
>> was thinking to add to fuse, but IIUC he gave up exactly because the
>> client will need to cooperate and that could be troublesome.
> 
> Here the cooperation is minimized, maybe one shmem/hugetlb path, or memfd,
> and it is one optimization and opt-in, and fallback to normal path
> if application doesn't cooperate.

My point is that with widely enough adopted interface the user will be
able to opportunistically use it without knowledge about the file, i.e.
not knowing whether it's ublk or something else. But as you mentioned
below, it'd be cooperative interface in either case.
>> Should we try to push everything under the same interface instead of
>> keeping a ublk specific one? Again to the point that it requires
> 
> If generic interface can be figured out, it shouldn't be a big deal for
> ublk to switch to it, and the usage is simple actually.

Sure, you'd just need to maintain both as there is a mismatch between
interfaces.

> So far, ublk supports both FS and nvme block device.
> 
> And cooperation can't be avoided for this usage no matter if generic or
> driver specific implementation is taken, for both fuse & ublk.
-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-12  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-29 15:25 [PATCH v3 00/10] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] file: add callback for creating long-term dmabuf maps Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-30  6:03   ` Christian König
2026-04-30 18:33     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-04  7:14       ` Christian König
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] iov_iter: add iterator type for " Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] block: move bvec init into __bio_clone Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] block: introduce dma map backed bio type Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] lib: add dmabuf token infrastructure Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] block: forward create_dmabuf_token to drivers Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] nvme-pci: implement dma_token backed requests Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:29   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 16:07   ` Maurizio Lombardi
2026-04-30 18:18     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] io_uring/rsrc: introduce buf registration structure Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] io_uring/rsrc: extend buffer update Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] io_uring/rsrc: add dmabuf backed registered buffers Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-04 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Ming Lei
2026-05-06  9:02   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-07  9:50     ` Ming Lei
2026-05-12  9:30       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
     [not found] ` <20260512070045.GA32030@lst.de>
2026-05-12  9:30   ` Pavel Begunkov

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