From: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
To: "ppaalanen@gmail.com" <ppaalanen@gmail.com>,
"zack@kde.org" <zack@kde.org>
Cc: "mripard@kernel.org" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"airlied@linux.ie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
"javierm@redhat.com" <javierm@redhat.com>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Martin Krastev <krastevm@vmware.com>,
Michael Banack <banackm@vmware.com>,
"tzimmermann@suse.de" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Ian Forbes <iforbes@vmware.com>,
Maaz Mombasawala <mombasawalam@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/8] drm/atomic: Add support for mouse hotspots
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:54:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2fb2f3985df4d6710e5ad33f6e618a52004714df.camel@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230628105424.11eb45ec@eldfell>
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 10:54 +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:41:06 +0300
> Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 01:21:27 -0400
> > Zack Rusin <zack@kde.org> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
> > >
> > > Atomic modesetting code lacked support for specifying mouse cursor
> > > hotspots. The legacy kms DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CURSOR2 had support for setting
> > > the hotspot but the functionality was not implemented in the new atomic
> > > paths.
> > >
> > > Due to the lack of hotspots in the atomic paths userspace compositors
> > > completely disable atomic modesetting for drivers that require it (i.e.
> > > all paravirtualized drivers).
> > >
> > > This change adds hotspot properties to the atomic codepaths throughtout
> > > the DRM core and will allow enabling atomic modesetting for virtualized
> > > drivers in the userspace.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
> > > Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
> > > Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
> > > Cc: David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>
> > > Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
> > > Reviewed-by: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
> >
> > Hi Zack,
> >
> > I still do not see any UAPI docs for the new properties in this patch?
>
> If you are wondering what there could be to write about, maybe this can
> give a good mindset:
>
> Let's assume that I am a Wayland compositor developer who has never used
> "hotspots" with KMS UAPI before. As I have never tested anything in a
> VM, I have no idea why the kernel would ever want to know about cursor
> hotspots. Display hardware never does anything with that, it just puts
> the cursor plane where I tell it to and composes a single image to be
> sent to the sink. The virtual driver VKMS does the same. To me, a
> cursor plane is just another universal plane that may have weird
> stacking order, pixel format, and size limitations.
>
> Ideally the doc for HOTSPOT_X and HOTSPOT_Y documents not only their
> possible existence and allowed/expected values, but also the reasons
> to have them and what they are used for, and that if the properties
> are exposed they are mandatory to program in order to use the plane.
Instead of resending the entire series maybe I can draft a possible doc below and
see if we like it (once we're ok with I'll send out v5 which hopefully will be
good). How about:
/**
* @hotspot_x_property: property to set mouse hotspot x offset.
*
* Hotspot is the point within the cursor image that's activating
* the click e.g. imagine an arrow cursor pointing to bottom right -
* the origin coordinate for that image would be top left
* but the point which would be propagating the click would be
* the bottom right cursor position (crtc_x, crtc_y) + hotspot
* coordinates which for bottom right facing arrow would probably
* be (cursor_width, cursor_height).
*
* This information is only relevant for drivers working on top
* of para-virtualized hardware. The reason for that is that
* the hotspot is fairly encapsulated in the system but imagine having
* multiple windows with virtual machines running on servers
* across the globe, as you move the mouse across the screen
* and the cursor moves over those multiple windows you wouldn't
* want to be sending those mouse events to those machines, so virtual
* machine monitors implement an optimization where unless the mouse
* is locked to the VM window (e.g. via a click) instead of propagating
* those mouse events to those VM's they change the image of the native
* cursor to what's inside the mouse cursor plane and do not interact
* with the VM window until mouse is clicked in it.
*
* In order for that click to correctly and seamlessly propagate
* between the native and virtual machine, not only the cursor image
* but also the hotspot information has to match between them.
*
* Make sure to set this property on the cursor plane if you'd like
* your application to behave correctly when running on
* para-virtualized drivers (qxl, vbox, virtio or vmwgfx).
* /
z
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-28 19:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-28 5:21 [PATCH v4 0/8] Fix cursor planes with virtualized drivers Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] drm: Disable the cursor plane on atomic contexts " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] drm/atomic: Add support for mouse hotspots Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 7:41 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-06-28 7:54 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-06-28 8:30 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-06-28 19:54 ` Zack Rusin [this message]
2023-06-29 8:03 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-03 21:06 ` Michael Banack
2023-07-04 8:08 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-05 16:08 ` Michael Banack
2023-07-06 8:01 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-06 16:23 ` Michael Banack
2023-07-07 8:38 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-07 20:54 ` Michael Banack
2023-07-10 8:17 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-10 17:46 ` Michael Banack
2023-07-11 7:14 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-18 8:41 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-18 9:27 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-18 9:56 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-06-28 14:15 ` Simon Ser
2023-06-28 16:26 ` Zack Rusin
2023-06-29 8:16 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-03 21:15 ` Michael Banack
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] drm/vmwgfx: Use the hotspot properties from cursor planes Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] drm/qxl: " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] drm/vboxvideo: " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] drm/virtio: " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] drm: Remove legacy cursor hotspot code Zack Rusin
2023-06-28 5:21 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] drm: Introduce DRM_CLIENT_CAP_CURSOR_PLANE_HOTSPOT Zack Rusin
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