dri-devel.lists.freedesktop.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
To: "ppaalanen@gmail.com" <ppaalanen@gmail.com>,
	"zack@kde.org" <zack@kde.org>
Cc: "mripard@kernel.org" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"airlied@linux.ie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"javierm@redhat.com" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Martin Krastev <krastevm@vmware.com>,
	Michael Banack <banackm@vmware.com>,
	"tzimmermann@suse.de" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Ian Forbes <iforbes@vmware.com>,
	Maaz Mombasawala <mombasawalam@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/8] drm/atomic: Add support for mouse hotspots
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:54:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2fb2f3985df4d6710e5ad33f6e618a52004714df.camel@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230628105424.11eb45ec@eldfell>

On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 10:54 +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:41:06 +0300
> Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 01:21:27 -0400
> > Zack Rusin <zack@kde.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
> > > 
> > > Atomic modesetting code lacked support for specifying mouse cursor
> > > hotspots. The legacy kms DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CURSOR2 had support for setting
> > > the hotspot but the functionality was not implemented in the new atomic
> > > paths.
> > > 
> > > Due to the lack of hotspots in the atomic paths userspace compositors
> > > completely disable atomic modesetting for drivers that require it (i.e.
> > > all paravirtualized drivers).
> > > 
> > > This change adds hotspot properties to the atomic codepaths throughtout
> > > the DRM core and will allow enabling atomic modesetting for virtualized
> > > drivers in the userspace.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
> > > Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
> > > Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
> > > Cc: David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>
> > > Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
> > > Reviewed-by: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>  
> > 
> > Hi Zack,
> > 
> > I still do not see any UAPI docs for the new properties in this patch?
> 
> If you are wondering what there could be to write about, maybe this can
> give a good mindset:
> 
> Let's assume that I am a Wayland compositor developer who has never used
> "hotspots" with KMS UAPI before. As I have never tested anything in a
> VM, I have no idea why the kernel would ever want to know about cursor
> hotspots. Display hardware never does anything with that, it just puts
> the cursor plane where I tell it to and composes a single image to be
> sent to the sink. The virtual driver VKMS does the same. To me, a
> cursor plane is just another universal plane that may have weird
> stacking order, pixel format, and size limitations.
> 
> Ideally the doc for HOTSPOT_X and HOTSPOT_Y documents not only their
> possible existence and allowed/expected values, but also the reasons
> to have them and what they are used for, and that if the properties
> are exposed they are mandatory to program in order to use the plane.

Instead of resending the entire series maybe I can draft a possible doc below and
see if we like it (once we're ok with I'll send out v5 which hopefully will be
good). How about:

/**
 * @hotspot_x_property: property to set mouse hotspot x offset.
 *
 * Hotspot is the point within the cursor image that's activating
 * the click e.g. imagine an arrow cursor pointing to bottom right -
 * the origin coordinate for that image would be top left
 * but the point which would be propagating the click would be
 * the bottom right cursor position (crtc_x, crtc_y) + hotspot
 * coordinates which for bottom right facing arrow would probably
 * be (cursor_width, cursor_height).
 *
 * This information is only relevant for drivers working on top
 * of para-virtualized hardware. The reason for that is that
 * the hotspot is fairly encapsulated in the system but imagine having
 * multiple windows with virtual machines running on servers
 * across the globe, as you move the mouse across the screen
 * and the cursor moves over those multiple windows you wouldn't
 * want to be sending those mouse events to those machines, so virtual
 * machine monitors implement an optimization where unless the mouse
 * is locked to the VM window (e.g. via a click) instead of propagating
 * those mouse events to those VM's they change the image of the native
 * cursor to what's inside the mouse cursor plane and do not interact
 * with the VM window until mouse is clicked in it.
 *
 * In order for that click to correctly and seamlessly propagate
 * between the native and virtual machine, not only the cursor image
 * but also the hotspot information has to match between them.
 *
 * Make sure to set this property on the cursor plane if you'd like
 * your application to behave correctly when running on
 * para-virtualized drivers (qxl, vbox, virtio or vmwgfx).
 * /

z

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-28 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-28  5:21 [PATCH v4 0/8] Fix cursor planes with virtualized drivers Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] drm: Disable the cursor plane on atomic contexts " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] drm/atomic: Add support for mouse hotspots Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  7:41   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-06-28  7:54     ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-06-28  8:30       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-06-28 19:54       ` Zack Rusin [this message]
2023-06-29  8:03         ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-03 21:06           ` Michael Banack
2023-07-04  8:08             ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-05 16:08               ` Michael Banack
2023-07-06  8:01                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-06 16:23                   ` Michael Banack
2023-07-07  8:38                     ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-07 20:54                       ` Michael Banack
2023-07-10  8:17                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-10 17:46                           ` Michael Banack
2023-07-11  7:14                             ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-18  8:41                               ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-18  9:27                                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-18  9:56                                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-06-28 14:15   ` Simon Ser
2023-06-28 16:26     ` Zack Rusin
2023-06-29  8:16       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-07-03 21:15         ` Michael Banack
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] drm/vmwgfx: Use the hotspot properties from cursor planes Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] drm/qxl: " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] drm/vboxvideo: " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] drm/virtio: " Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] drm: Remove legacy cursor hotspot code Zack Rusin
2023-06-28  5:21 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] drm: Introduce DRM_CLIENT_CAP_CURSOR_PLANE_HOTSPOT Zack Rusin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=2fb2f3985df4d6710e5ad33f6e618a52004714df.camel@vmware.com \
    --to=zackr@vmware.com \
    --cc=airlied@linux.ie \
    --cc=banackm@vmware.com \
    --cc=dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org \
    --cc=iforbes@vmware.com \
    --cc=javierm@redhat.com \
    --cc=krastevm@vmware.com \
    --cc=mombasawalam@vmware.com \
    --cc=mripard@kernel.org \
    --cc=ppaalanen@gmail.com \
    --cc=tzimmermann@suse.de \
    --cc=zack@kde.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).