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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, airlied@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, apopple@nvidia.com, baohua@kernel.org,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, byungchul@sk.com, dakr@kernel.org,
	dev.jain@arm.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	francois.dugast@intel.com, gourry@gourry.net,
	joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, lyude@redhat.com,
	matthew.brost@intel.com, mpenttil@redhat.com, npache@redhat.com,
	osalvador@suse.de, rakie.kim@sk.com, rcampbell@nvidia.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, simona@ffwll.ch,
	ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux-next: KVM/s390x regression
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 00:15:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a2db8fc-d289-415b-ae67-5a35c9c32a76@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9f28d0c-6b06-47a2-884d-7533f7b49c45@nvidia.com>

On 17.10.25 23:56, Balbir Singh wrote:
> On 10/18/25 04:07, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 17.10.25 17:20, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 17.10.25 um 17:07 schrieb David Hildenbrand:
>>>> On 17.10.25 17:01, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>>>> Am 17.10.25 um 16:54 schrieb David Hildenbrand:
>>>>>> On 17.10.25 16:49, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>>>>>> This patch triggers a regression for s390x kvm as qemu guests can no longer start
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> error: kvm run failed Cannot allocate memory
>>>>>>> PSW=mask 0000000180000000 addr 000000007fd00600
>>>>>>> R00=0000000000000000 R01=0000000000000000 R02=0000000000000000 R03=0000000000000000
>>>>>>> R04=0000000000000000 R05=0000000000000000 R06=0000000000000000 R07=0000000000000000
>>>>>>> R08=0000000000000000 R09=0000000000000000 R10=0000000000000000 R11=0000000000000000
>>>>>>> R12=0000000000000000 R13=0000000000000000 R14=0000000000000000 R15=0000000000000000
>>>>>>> C00=00000000000000e0 C01=0000000000000000 C02=0000000000000000 C03=0000000000000000
>>>>>>> C04=0000000000000000 C05=0000000000000000 C06=0000000000000000 C07=0000000000000000
>>>>>>> C08=0000000000000000 C09=0000000000000000 C10=0000000000000000 C11=0000000000000000
>>>>>>> C12=0000000000000000 C13=0000000000000000 C14=00000000c2000000 C15=0000000000000000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KVM on s390x does not use THP so far, will investigate. Does anyone have a quick idea?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only when running KVM guests and apart from that everything else seems to be fine?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have other weirdness in linux-next but in different areas. Could that somehow be
>>>>> related to use disabling THP for the kvm address space?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure ... it's a bit weird. I mean, when KVM disables THPs we essentially just remap everything to be mapped by PTEs. So there shouldn't be any PMDs in that whole process.
>>>>
>>>> Remapping a file THP (shmem) implies zapping the THP completely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume in your kernel config has CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE and CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION set, right?
>>>
>>> yes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd rule out copy_huge_pmd(), zap_huge_pmd() a well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What happens if you revert the change in mm/pgtable-generic.c?
>>>
>>> That partial revert seems to fix the issue
>>> diff --git a/mm/pgtable-generic.c b/mm/pgtable-generic.c
>>> index 0c847cdf4fd3..567e2d084071 100644
>>> --- a/mm/pgtable-generic.c
>>> +++ b/mm/pgtable-generic.c
>>> @@ -290,7 +290,7 @@ pte_t *___pte_offset_map(pmd_t *pmd, unsigned long addr, pmd_t *pmdvalp)
>>>               if (pmdvalp)
>>>                    *pmdvalp = pmdval;
>>> -       if (unlikely(pmd_none(pmdval) || !pmd_present(pmdval)))
>>> +       if (unlikely(pmd_none(pmdval) || is_pmd_migration_entry(pmdval)))
>>
>> Okay, but that means that effectively we stumble over a PMD entry that is not a migration entry but still non-present.
>>
>> And I would expect that it's a page table, because otherwise the change
>> wouldn't make a difference.
>>
>> And the weird thing is that this only triggers sometimes, because if
>> it would always trigger nothing would ever work.
>>
>> Is there some weird scenario where s390x might set a left page table mapped in a PMD to non-present?
>>
> 
> Good point
> 
>> Staring at the definition of pmd_present() on s390x it's really just
>>
>>      return (pmd_val(pmd) & _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT) != 0;
>>
>>
>> Maybe this is happening in the gmap code only and not actually in the core-mm code?
>>
> 
> 
> I am not an s390 expert, but just looking at the code
> 
> So the check on s390 effectively
> 
> segment_entry/present = false or segment_entry_empty/invalid = true

pmd_present() == true iff _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT is set

because

	return (pmd_val(pmd) & _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT) != 0;

is the same as

	return pmd_val(pmd) & _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT;

But that means we have something where _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT is not set.

I suspect that can only be the gmap tables.

Likely __gmap_link() does not set _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT, which is fine 
because it's a software managed bit for "ordinary" page tables, not gmap 
tables.

Which raises the question why someone would wrongly use 
pte_offset_map()/__pte_offset_map() on the gmap tables.

I cannot immediately spot any such usage in kvm/gmap code, though.

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-17 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-01  6:56 [v7 00/16] mm: support device-private THP Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 01/16] mm/zone_device: support large zone device private folios Balbir Singh
2025-10-12  6:10   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-12 22:54     ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 02/16] mm/zone_device: Rename page_free callback to folio_free Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 03/16] mm/huge_memory: add device-private THP support to PMD operations Balbir Singh
2025-10-12 15:46   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13  0:01     ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-13  1:48       ` Lance Yang
2025-10-17 14:49   ` linux-next: KVM/s390x regression (was: [v7 03/16] mm/huge_memory: add device-private THP support to PMD operations) Christian Borntraeger
2025-10-17 14:54     ` linux-next: KVM/s390x regression David Hildenbrand
2025-10-17 15:01       ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-10-17 15:07         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-17 15:20           ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-10-17 17:07             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-17 21:56               ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-17 22:15                 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-10-17 22:41                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-20  7:01                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-10-20  7:00                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-10-20  8:41                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-20  9:04                     ` Claudio Imbrenda
2025-10-27 16:47                     ` Claudio Imbrenda
2025-10-27 16:59                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 17:06                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-10-28  9:24                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-28 13:01                         ` [PATCH v1 0/1] KVM: s390: Fix missing present bit for gmap puds Claudio Imbrenda
2025-10-28 13:01                           ` [PATCH v1 1/1] " Claudio Imbrenda
2025-10-28 21:23                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-29 10:00                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-29 10:20                               ` Claudio Imbrenda
2025-10-28 22:53                           ` [PATCH v1 0/1] " Andrew Morton
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 04/16] mm/rmap: extend rmap and migration support device-private entries Balbir Singh
2025-10-22 11:54   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 05/16] mm/huge_memory: implement device-private THP splitting Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 06/16] mm/migrate_device: handle partially mapped folios during collection Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 07/16] mm/migrate_device: implement THP migration of zone device pages Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:56 ` [v7 08/16] mm/memory/fault: add THP fault handling for zone device private pages Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 09/16] lib/test_hmm: add zone device private THP test infrastructure Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 10/16] mm/memremap: add driver callback support for folio splitting Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 11/16] mm/migrate_device: add THP splitting during migration Balbir Singh
2025-10-13 21:17   ` Zi Yan
2025-10-13 21:33     ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-13 21:55       ` Zi Yan
2025-10-13 22:50         ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-19  8:19   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-19 22:49     ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-19 22:59       ` Zi Yan
2025-10-21 21:34         ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-22  2:59           ` Zi Yan
2025-10-22  7:16             ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-22 15:26               ` Zi Yan
2025-10-28  9:32                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 12/16] lib/test_hmm: add large page allocation failure testing Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 13/16] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new tests for zone device THP migration Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 14/16] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: partial unmap, mremap and anon_write tests Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 15/16] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new throughput tests including THP Balbir Singh
2025-10-01  6:57 ` [v7 16/16] gpu/drm/nouveau: enable THP support for GPU memory migration Balbir Singh
2025-10-09  3:17 ` [v7 00/16] mm: support device-private THP Andrew Morton
2025-10-09  3:26   ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-09 10:33     ` Matthew Brost
2025-10-13 22:51       ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-11 23:43       ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-11 23:52         ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-12  0:24           ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-12  0:36             ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-20  2:40           ` Matthew Brost
2025-11-20  2:50             ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-20  2:59               ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-20  3:15                 ` Matthew Brost
2025-11-20  3:58                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-20  5:46                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-20  5:53                     ` Matthew Brost
2025-11-20  6:03                       ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-20 17:27                         ` Matthew Brost

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