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From: "Christian König" <deathsimple-ANTagKRnAhcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Maarten Lankhorst
	<maarten.lankhorst-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	airlied-cv59FeDIM0c@public.gmane.org
Cc: nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 08/16] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 11:42:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53748BFD.1050608@vodafone.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53748AFA.8010109-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>

Am 15.05.2014 11:38, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
> op 15-05-14 11:21, Christian König schreef:
>> Am 15.05.2014 03:06, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
>>> op 14-05-14 17:29, Christian König schreef:
>>>>> +    /* did fence get signaled after we enabled the sw irq? */
>>>>> +    if 
>>>>> (atomic64_read(&fence->rdev->fence_drv[fence->ring].last_seq) >= 
>>>>> fence->seq) {
>>>>> +        radeon_irq_kms_sw_irq_put(fence->rdev, fence->ring);
>>>>> +        return false;
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    fence->fence_wake.flags = 0;
>>>>> +    fence->fence_wake.private = NULL;
>>>>> +    fence->fence_wake.func = radeon_fence_check_signaled;
>>>>> +    __add_wait_queue(&fence->rdev->fence_queue, &fence->fence_wake);
>>>>> +    fence_get(f);
>>>> That looks like a race condition to me. The fence needs to be added 
>>>> to the wait queue before the check, not after.
>>>>
>>>> Apart from that the whole approach looks like a really bad idea to 
>>>> me. How for example is lockup detection supposed to happen with this? 
>>> It's not a race condition because fence_queue.lock is held when this 
>>> function is called.
>> Ah, I see. That's also the reason why you moved the wake_up_all out 
>> of the processing function.
> Correct. :-)
>>> Lockup's a bit of a weird problem, the changes wouldn't allow core 
>>> ttm code to handle the lockup any more,
>>> but any driver specific wait code would still handle this. I did 
>>> this by design, because in future patches the wait
>>> function may be called from outside of the radeon driver. The 
>>> official wait function takes a timeout parameter,
>>> so lockups wouldn't be fatal if the timeout is set to something like 
>>> 30*HZ for example, it would still return
>>> and report that the function timed out.
>> Timeouts help with the detection of the lockup, but not at all with 
>> the handling of them.
>>
>> What we essentially need is a wait callback into the driver that is 
>> called in non atomic context without any locks held.
>>
>> This way we can block for the fence to become signaled with a timeout 
>> and can then also initiate the reset handling if necessary.
>>
>> The way you designed the interface now means that the driver never 
>> gets a chance to wait for the hardware to become idle and so never 
>> has the opportunity to the reset the whole thing.
> You could set up a hangcheck timer like intel does, and end up with a 
> reliable hangcheck detection that doesn't depend on cpu waits. :-) Or 
> override the default wait function and restore the old behavior.

Overriding the default wait function sounds better, please implement it 
this way.

Thanks,
Christian.

>
> ~Maarten
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-15  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-14 14:57 [RFC PATCH v1 00/16] Convert all ttm drivers to use the new reservation interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/16] drm/ttm: add interruptible parameter to ttm_eu_reserve_buffers Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/16] drm/ttm: kill off some members to ttm_validate_buffer Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/16] drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/16] drm/nouveau: require reservations for nouveau_fence_sync and nouveau_bo_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/16] drm/ttm: call ttm_bo_wait while inside a reservation Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/16] drm/ttm: kill fence_lock Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/16] drm/nouveau: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/16] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 15:29   ` Christian König
     [not found]     ` <53738BCC.2070809-ANTagKRnAhcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15  1:06       ` Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found]         ` <5374131D.4010906-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15  9:21           ` Christian König
2014-05-15  9:38             ` Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found]               ` <53748AFA.8010109-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15  9:42                 ` Christian König [this message]
2014-05-15 13:04                   ` Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found]                     ` <5374BB4A.6070102-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15 13:19                       ` Christian König
     [not found]                         ` <5374BEE2.4060608-ANTagKRnAhcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15 14:18                           ` Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found]                             ` <5374CC9A.9090905-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15 15:48                               ` Christian König
2014-05-15 15:58                                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-15 16:13                                   ` Christian König
2014-05-19  8:00                                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-19  8:27                                       ` Christian König
2014-05-19 10:10                                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-19 12:30                                           ` Christian König
     [not found]                                             ` <5379F96C.1060806-ANTagKRnAhcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-19 13:35                                               ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-19 14:25                                                 ` Christian König
     [not found]                                                   ` <537A144F.1070909-ANTagKRnAhcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 10:09                                                     ` [RFC PATCH v1.2 " Maarten Lankhorst
2014-06-02 10:45                                                       ` Christian König
2014-06-02 13:14                                                         ` [RFC PATCH v1.3 08/16 1/2] drm/radeon: add timeout argument to radeon_fence_wait_seq Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found]                                                           ` <538C78B3.8080502-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 13:27                                                             ` Christian König
2014-06-03  7:50                                                               ` [RFC PATCH v1.4 " Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found]                                                         ` <538C55CA.6050804-ANTagKRnAhcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 13:16                                                           ` [RFC PATCH v1.3 08/16 2/2] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/16] drm/qxl: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/16] drm/vmwgfx: get rid of different types of fence_flags entirely Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/16] drm/vmwgfx: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/16] drm/ttm: flip the switch, and convert to dma_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/16] drm/nouveau: use rcu in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/16] drm/radeon: use rcu waits in some ioctls Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/16] drm/vmwgfx: use rcu in vmw_user_dmabuf_synccpu_grab Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/16] drm/ttm: use rcu in core ttm Maarten Lankhorst

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