From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski
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Seung-Woo Kim
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Kyungmin Park
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Kukjin Kim <kgene-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/98] exynos_drm.h: use __u64 from linux/types.h
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:51:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <556C2B0E.8000001@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150601093808.GP2067-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
On 01.06.2015 11:38, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:08:21AM +0200, Christian König wrote:
>> Yeah, completely agree with Linus on the visibility problem and that's
>> exactly the reason why we don't include <stdint.h> in the kernel header and
>> expect userspace to define the ISO types somewhere.
>>
>> But using the types from "include/linux/types.h" and especially including it
>> into the uapi headers doesn't make the situation better, but rather worse.
>>
>> With this step we not only make the headers depend on another header that
>> isn't part of the uapi, but also pollute the user space namespace with __sXX
>> and __uXX types which aren't defined anywhere else.
> 1) Header files are permitted to pollute userspace with __-defined stuff.
>
> 2) __[su]XX types are defined as part of the kernel's uapi.
> include/uapi/linux/types.h includes asm/types.h, which in userspace
> picks up include/uapi/asm-generic/types.h. That picks up
> asm-generic/int-ll64.h, which defines these types.
>
> Moreover, this is done throughout the kernel headers _already_ (as you
> would expect for a policy set 10+ years ago).
>
> Please, I'm not interested in this discussion, so please don't argue
> with me - I may agree with your position, but what you think and what
> I think are really not relevant here. If you have a problem, take it
> up with Linus - I made that clear in my email.
>
In this case I'm fine with the changes, but I'm still not sure if that's
a good idea or not.
Sticking to ISO C still sounds better than doing something on our own.
And it now looks a bit different than it was in 2004, stdint.h is widely
adopted in userspace if I'm not completely mistaken.
Anyway you're perfectly right that Linus need to decide and I'm not in
the mod to argue with him either (got way to much other things to do as
well).
Regards,
Christian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-01 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1433000370-19509-1-git-send-email-mikko.rapeli@iki.fi>
2015-05-30 15:37 ` [PATCH 03/98] drm.h: use __kernel_size_t instead of size_t Mikko Rapeli
2015-06-03 17:19 ` Emil Velikov
[not found] ` <CACvgo50OLHbvk4scG+pSOW53gR8Ze=yrD4GvbmdE=YRgALjdow-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-30 10:42 ` Mikko Rapeli
2015-10-15 6:49 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-30 15:37 ` [PATCH 07/98] radeon_drm.h: use __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 08/98] r128_drm.h: include drm/drm.h Mikko Rapeli
[not found] ` <1433000370-19509-1-git-send-email-mikko.rapeli-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-30 15:37 ` [PATCH 04/98] drm_mode.h: use __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h Mikko Rapeli
[not found] ` <1433000370-19509-5-git-send-email-mikko.rapeli-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-30 19:58 ` Frans Klaver
2015-05-30 15:37 ` [PATCH 05/98] exynos_drm.h: use " Mikko Rapeli
[not found] ` <1433000370-19509-6-git-send-email-mikko.rapeli-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-30 16:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-06-01 8:20 ` Christian König
[not found] ` <556C15BA.7000909-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 8:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20150601085605.GN2067-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 9:08 ` Christian König
2015-06-01 9:14 ` Frans Klaver
[not found] ` <556C2105.2090607-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 9:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20150601093808.GP2067-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 9:51 ` Christian König [this message]
2015-06-01 9:15 ` Mikko Rapeli
2015-06-02 18:59 ` Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:37 ` [PATCH 06/98] nouveau_drm.h: use __u32 and " Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 09/98] via_drm.h: include linux/types.h instead of non-existing via_drmclient.h Mikko Rapeli
2015-06-03 17:16 ` Emil Velikov
2015-06-04 11:34 ` Emil Velikov
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 10/98] via_drm.h: hide struct via_file_private in userspace Mikko Rapeli
[not found] ` <1433000370-19509-11-git-send-email-mikko.rapeli-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 16:50 ` Emil Velikov
2015-09-02 19:17 ` Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 12/98] sis_drm.h: hide sis_file_private " Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 13/98] drm/i810_drm.h: include drm/drm.h Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 11/98] savage_drm.h: include <drm/drm.h> Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 14/98] include/uapi/drm/vmwgfx_drm.h: use __s32, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 15/98] include/uapi/drm/qxl_drm.h: " Mikko Rapeli
2015-05-30 15:38 ` [PATCH 16/98] include/uapi/drm/msm_drm.h: use __s32, __s64, " Mikko Rapeli
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