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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, sumit.semwal@linaro.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dma-fence: fix dma_fence_get_rcu_safe
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:57:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ff4b100-b580-a93d-aa5e-c66173ac091d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <150512178199.16759.73667469529688@mail.alporthouse.com>

Am 11.09.2017 um 11:23 schrieb Chris Wilson:
> Quoting Christian König (2017-09-11 10:06:50)
>> Am 11.09.2017 um 10:59 schrieb Chris Wilson:
>>> Quoting Christian König (2017-09-11 09:50:40)
>>>> Sorry for the delayed response, but your mail somehow ended up in the
>>>> Spam folder.
>>>>
>>>> Am 04.09.2017 um 15:40 schrieb Chris Wilson:
>>>>> Quoting Christian König (2017-09-04 14:27:33)
>>>>>> From: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The logic is buggy and unnecessary complex. When dma_fence_get_rcu() fails to
>>>>>> acquire a reference it doesn't necessary mean that there is no fence at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It usually mean that the fence was replaced by a new one and in this situation
>>>>>> we certainly want to have the new one as result and *NOT* NULL.
>>>>> Which is not guaranteed by the code you wrote either.
>>>>>
>>>>> The point of the comment is that the mb is only inside the successful
>>>>> kref_atomic_inc_unless_zero, and that only after that mb do you know
>>>>> whether or not you have the current fence.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can argue that you want to replace the
>>>>>         if (!dma_fence_get_rcu())
>>>>>                 return NULL
>>>>> with
>>>>>         if (!dma_fence_get_rcu()
>>>>>                 continue;
>>>>> but it would be incorrect to say that by simply ignoring the
>>>>> post-condition check that you do have the right fence.
>>>> You are completely missing the point here.
>>>>
>>>> It is irrelevant if you have the current fence or not when you return.
>>>> You can only guarantee that it is the current fence when you take a look
>>>> and that is exactly what we want to avoid.
>>>>
>>>> So the existing code is complete nonsense. Instead what we need to
>>>> guarantee is that we return *ANY* fence which we can grab a reference for.
>>> Not quite. We can grab a reference on a fence that was already freed and
>>> reused between the rcu_dereference() and dma_fence_get_rcu().
>> Reusing a memory structure before the RCU grace period is completed is
>> illegal, otherwise the whole RCU approach won't work.
> RCU only protects that the pointer remains valid. If you use
> SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, it is possible to reuse the pointer within a grace
> period. It does happen and that is the point the comment is trying to
> make.

Yeah, but that is illegal with a fence objects.

When anybody allocates fences this way it breaks at least 
reservation_object_get_fences_rcu(), 
reservation_object_wait_timeout_rcu() and 
reservation_object_test_signaled_single().

Cause all of them rely on dma_fence_get() to return NULL when the fence 
isn't valid any more to restart the operation.

When dma_fence_get_rcu() returns a reallocated fence the operation 
wouldn't correctly restart and the end result most likely not be correct 
at all.

Using SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU is only valid if you can ensure that you have 
the right object using a second criteria and that is not the case with 
fences.

Regards,
Christian.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-11  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-04 13:27 [PATCH] dma-fence: fix dma_fence_get_rcu_safe Christian König
2017-09-04 13:40 ` Chris Wilson
2017-09-11  8:50   ` Christian König
2017-09-11  8:59     ` Chris Wilson
2017-09-11  9:06       ` Christian König
2017-09-11  9:23         ` Chris Wilson
2017-09-11  9:57           ` Christian König [this message]
2017-09-11 10:01             ` Chris Wilson
2017-09-11 11:06               ` Christian König
2017-09-20 18:20                 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-09-21  7:00                   ` Christian König
2017-09-21  7:29                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2017-09-29 12:34                   ` Joonas Lahtinen
     [not found] <1504530994-2464-1-git-send-email-deathsimple@vodafone.de>
2017-09-04 15:50 ` Christian König
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2017-09-04 13:20 Christian König

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