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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: airlied@redhat.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, hdegoede@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] drm/gem: Write down some rules for vmap usage
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:13:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <70e396bf-e8a3-4871-7ad1-4a90298d8461@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0237fafc-f57e-b60b-f92c-0b0a79e9448e@suse.de>

Am 01.12.20 um 09:32 schrieb Thomas Zimmermann:
> Hi
>
> Am 30.11.20 um 16:33 schrieb Christian König:
>> Am 30.11.20 um 16:30 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 01:04:26PM +0100, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>>>> Mapping a GEM object's buffer into kernel address space prevents the
>>>> buffer from being evicted from VRAM, which in turn may result in
>>>> out-of-memory errors. It's therefore required to only vmap GEM BOs for
>>>> short periods of time; unless the GEM implementation provides 
>>>> additional
>>>> guarantees.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
>>>> ---
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_prime.c |  6 ++++++
>>>>   include/drm/drm_gem.h       | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>>>>   2 files changed, 22 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_prime.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_prime.c
>>>> index 7db55fce35d8..9c9ece9833e0 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_prime.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_prime.c
>>>> @@ -669,6 +669,12 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_gem_unmap_dma_buf);
>>>>    * callback. Calls into &drm_gem_object_funcs.vmap for device 
>>>> specific handling.
>>>>    * The kernel virtual address is returned in map.
>>>>    *
>>>> + * To prevent the GEM object from being relocated, callers must 
>>>> hold the GEM
>>>> + * object's reservation lock from when calling this function until 
>>>> releasing the
>>>> + * mapping. Holding onto a mapping and the associated reservation 
>>>> lock for an
>>>> + * unbound time may result in out-of-memory errors. Calls to 
>>>> drm_gem_dmabuf_vmap()
>>>> + * should therefore be accompanied by a call to 
>>>> drm_gem_dmabuf_vunmap().
>>>> + *
>>>>    * Returns 0 on success or a negative errno code otherwise.
>>> This is a dma-buf hook, which means just documenting the rules you'd 
>>> like
>>> to have here isn't enough. We need to roll this out at the dma-buf 
>>> level,
>>> and enforce it.
>>>
>>> Enforce it = assert_lock_held
>>>
>>> Roll out = review everyone. Because this goes through dma-buf it'll 
>>> come
>>> back through shmem helpers (and other helpers and other subsystems) 
>>> back
>>> to any driver using vmap for gpu buffers. This includes the media
>>> subsystem, and the media subsystem definitely doesn't cope with just
>>> temporarily mapping buffers. So there we need to pin them, which I 
>>> think
>>> means we'll need 2 version of dma_buf_vmap - one that's temporary and
>>> requires we hold dma_resv lock, the other requires that the buffer is
>>> pinned.
>>
>> OR start to proper use the dma_buf_pin/dma_buf_unpin functions which 
>> I added to cover this use case as well.
>
> While I generally agree, here are some thoughts:
>
> I found all generic pin functions useless, because they don't allow 
> for specifying where to pin. With fbdev emulation, this means that 
> console buffers might never make it to VRAM for scanout. If anything, 
> the policy should be that pin always pins in HW-accessible memory.

Yes, completely agree. The major missing part here are some kind of 
usage flags what we want to do with the buffer.

>
> Pin has quite a bit of overhead (more locking, buffer movement), so it 
> should be the second choice after regular vmap. To make both work 
> together, pin probably relies on holding the reservation lock internally.

There is a dma_resv_assert_held() at the beginning of those two functions.

>
> Therefore I think we still would want some additional helpers, such as:
>
>   pin_unlocked(), which acquires the resv lock, calls regular pin and 
> then drops the resv lock. Same for unpin_unlocked()
>
>   vmap_pinned(), which enforces that the buffer has been pinned and 
> then calls regalar vmap. Same for vunmap_pinned()

I would rather open code that in each driver, hiding the locking logic 
in some midlayer is usually not a good idea.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> A typical pattern with these functions would look like this.
>
>     drm_gem_object bo;
>     dma_buf_map map;
>
>     init() {
>         pin_unlocked(bo);
>         vmap_pinned(bo, map);
>     }
>
>     worker() {
>         begin_cpu_access()
>         // access bo via map
>         end_cpu_access()
>     }
>
>     fini() {
>         vunmap_pinned(bo, map);
>         unpin_unlocked(bo);
>     }
>
>     init()
>     while (...) {
>         worker()
>     }
>     fini()
>
> Is that reasonable for media drivers?
>
> Best regards
> Thomas
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Christian.
>>
>>>
>>> That's what I meant with that this approach here is very sprawling :-/
>>> -Daniel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-01  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30 12:04 [PATCH 0/8] drm/vram-helper: Lock GEM BOs while they are mapped Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 1/8] drm/gem: Write down some rules for vmap usage Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 15:30   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-30 15:33     ` Christian König
2020-12-01  8:32       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01  9:10         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-01  9:40           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01 10:00             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-01 10:27               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01 10:34                 ` Christian König
2020-12-01 11:30                   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01 12:14                     ` Christian König
2020-12-01 12:33                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01 12:38                         ` Christian König
2020-12-01 12:51                           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01 12:53                             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01 13:05                               ` Christian König
2020-12-01 16:54                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-01 12:05               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01  9:13         ` Christian König [this message]
2020-12-01  9:30           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-12-01  8:15     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 2/8] drm/ast: Only map cursor BOs during updates Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 3/8] drm/vram-helper: Provide drm_gem_vram_vmap_unlocked() Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 4/8] drm/ast: Use drm_gem_vram_vmap_unlocked() in ast_cursor_show() Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/vboxvideo: Use drm_gem_vram_vmap_unlocked() in cursor update Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 6/8] drm/vram-helper: Remove pinning and locking from drm_gem_vram_vmap() Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/vram-helper: Remove vmap reference counting Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:04 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/vram-helper: Simplify vmap implementation Thomas Zimmermann
2020-11-30 12:27 ` [PATCH 0/8] drm/vram-helper: Lock GEM BOs while they are mapped Christian König
2020-11-30 12:45 ` Thomas Zimmermann

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