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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.30 / 50.00]; BAYES_HAM(-3.00)[100.00%]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.20)[-0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmx.de]; DKIM_SIGNED(0.00)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[kernel.org,ffwll.ch,vger.kernel.org,gmx.de,lists.freedesktop.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DBL_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[suse.com:url,suse.de:mid] X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" Hi Am 29.08.26 um 16:39 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: [...] >> This has nothing to do with KDE or Gnome, if you have issues with those >> projects, please take it up with them and contribute to them to resolve >> those issues. I know they can always use the help. > My point is that the kernel's console is rock solid and dependable. That is a bold statement.  I've spend the last years working on related code (fbcon) and it mostly feels dated and unmaintained. Our prime implementation (again fbcon) has been de-facto unmaintained for years. We recently had contributors who are pushing the ioctls semantics and found bugs in fbcon for a number of corner cases. > Things like kmscon are subject to the vagaries of fashion. > >>> As is clear, I think the console's limitations should be eliminated. >> And the rest of us feel the kernel console's code should be eliminated >> entirely, when ever possible :) > The rest of you don't appear to be console users. It's easy to advocate > for removal when you don't use it yourself. FTR I'm not at all interested in eliminating the kernel's console. But there are must-have features and nice-to-have features. IMHO for the kernel console i18n really belongs in the later category. Best regards Thomas > >> thanks, >> greg k-h -- -- Thomas Zimmermann Graphics Driver Developer SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Frankenstr. 146, 90461 Nürnberg, Germany, www.suse.com GF: Jochen Jaser, Andrew McDonald, (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)