From: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Dave Martin <dave.martin@linaro.org>,
linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin.juszkiewicz@linaro.org>,
Jammy Zhou <jammy.zhou@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Freescale Linux BSP review
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:11:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqKb238p5kdwWu55-e5rr9CfP8gPdYE=ztpms_@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012131618.04298.arnd@arndb.de>
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Monday 13 December 2010, Jammy Zhou wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>wrote:
>>
>> > On 11 December 2010 22:41, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > * amd-gpu -- a single but huge driver for the GPU. As is normally the
>> >> case with GPU drivers, we can expect long discussions
>> >> before it will get considered for mainline
>> >> 4 patches
>> >> 98 files changed, 278321 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Just out of curiosity, following the discussion between Dave Airlie
>> > and Codeaurora this summer re GPU driver shims.
>> >
>> > Is the AMD GPU exposing all functionality in its kernel driver or
>> > is there some userspace blob somewhere with lots of e.g. GL
>> > goodies?
>> >
>> All the functionality for the kernel driver of AMD GPU Z430/Z160 (now
>> belongs to Qualcom) is exposed. But we need accompanied userspace library to
>> call these functionality (buffer management, command submission, ...).
>
> Who owns these components? If it's closed source, the only options we
> have are lobbying for complete release of the specs for a reimplementation
> or reverse-engineering the drivers, which may at least get easier with
> a user space driver than it would be with a kernel driver.
>
> Until there is a solution with an open source user space part, I would
> suggest that the driver better be dropped from the Freescale BSP and
> we should at least not waste time reviewing it.
>
> Arnd
>From a quick look it also seems that the API exposed to userspace
would allow easy abuse of the GPU to access any system ram. There is a
reason we do expensive command checking in the other amd gpu driver
(drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/*cs.c files)
Cheers,
Jerome
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[not found] ` <AANLkTimu8MKUoF7ywpkdGXdLocDp9e_5ya-0Rh0JFhhx@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTimu8MKUoF7ywpkdGXdLocDp9e_5ya-0Rh0JFhhx-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-13 15:18 ` Freescale Linux BSP review Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-13 16:11 ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
[not found] ` <AANLkTikqKb238p5kdwWu55-e5rr9CfP8gPdYE=ztpms_-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 2:04 ` Jammy Zhou
2010-12-14 2:06 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <AANLkTinRdmfL+Jce_gRwuWP_F-G82a9hsUwtH8H-+_N5-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 2:30 ` Jammy Zhou
2010-12-14 2:35 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <201012131618.04298.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 1:59 ` Jammy Zhou
[not found] ` <AANLkTikpN0ALBKmhaT6eQG2oecti-81FPB80OPp3+VcS-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 2:35 ` Eric Miao
[not found] ` <AANLkTikNW7T2_=UMB=uf7w+fW5V7FX0wA4jrx8J=2EZL-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 8:59 ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2010-12-14 13:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-20 16:18 ` Matt Sealey
[not found] ` <AANLkTinGNK3Jv5wfjmAzwvV3xcKsTVcO7PLb+v7Py0TX-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 17:17 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <AANLkTikgXy8jr5Obxk9CYTX8BUvsOiO5sMpUsEcsdQxV-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 17:41 ` Matt Sealey
[not found] ` <AANLkTikxidr1eFmMxFNWGLmpN4Kn1MTcDiX52yUXBbR7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 18:07 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <AANLkTimO9gQ3uOor3DBW8=EAe8-cVPz9jm9-UmGv1GhV-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 19:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-20 20:14 ` Alan Cox
2010-12-20 19:54 ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-20 20:09 ` Alan Cox
2010-12-21 2:17 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1012210313040.9770-APZTmCvJ1e4cvTeJY7g42e4opr6GJZWbqwyb7XGsRfw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-21 11:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201012211250.10793.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-21 17:29 ` Matt Sealey
2010-12-21 19:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <AANLkTimotkPt5fc8-3DPSK5urD-1+XroagLcFdhjc4zu-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 1:32 ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-22 1:54 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1012220252230.9770-APZTmCvJ1e4cvTeJY7g42e4opr6GJZWbqwyb7XGsRfw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 2:36 ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-22 3:07 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
[not found] ` <AANLkTikENVUbf76ck6XeXC0+na9-EpEtWgjS_mD2G26--JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 7:51 ` Matt Sealey
[not found] ` <AANLkTinKO8UHO8RcrVHyZi3jbi_Y==-HZ86eBnfXBgZ--JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 11:02 ` Konstantinos Margaritis
[not found] ` <AANLkTikmK+SOupH3WsB338QQ=Wwg6dGgaM6SfK_XxUC9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 11:49 ` David Rusling
[not found] ` <865A2CE2-D623-4478-A96B-6DF7942AEC39-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 17:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1012221006130.10437-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 17:38 ` Tom Gall
[not found] ` <AANLkTimbn4FBQM0FQCyuweTE7g0__T5rnvpcPrZdGDuN-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 18:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-22 18:39 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1012221932410.9770-APZTmCvJ1e4cvTeJY7g42e4opr6GJZWbqwyb7XGsRfw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 18:49 ` Konstantinos Margaritis
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=Zo=Y=9170DCp1_7uzwePzmzXxxroobXzExHOM-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 19:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1012221411330.10437-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 19:46 ` Konstantinos Margaritis
[not found] ` <AANLkTikCPqqjhU+QtYtpYusgQfOBAtK2vWX3b6gidaFF-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 20:09 ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-22 20:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-22 23:52 ` Xavier Bestel
2010-12-23 0:19 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-22 20:30 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
2010-12-22 20:20 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
2010-12-23 17:17 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20101223171701.72cb14db-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-23 17:40 ` David Rusling
2010-12-22 18:23 ` Jerome Glisse
2010-12-23 16:46 ` Alan Cox
2010-12-23 16:07 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-12-14 8:42 ` Dave Airlie
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