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From: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Dave Martin <dave.martin@linaro.org>,
	linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin.juszkiewicz@linaro.org>,
	Jammy Zhou <jammy.zhou@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Freescale Linux BSP review
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:11:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqKb238p5kdwWu55-e5rr9CfP8gPdYE=ztpms_@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012131618.04298.arnd@arndb.de>

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Monday 13 December 2010, Jammy Zhou wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>wrote:
>>
>> > On 11 December 2010 22:41, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > * amd-gpu -- a single but huge driver for the GPU. As is normally the
>> >>             case with GPU drivers, we can expect long discussions
>> >>             before it will get considered for mainline
>> >>  4 patches
>> >>  98 files changed, 278321 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Just out of curiosity, following the discussion between Dave Airlie
>> > and Codeaurora this summer re GPU driver shims.
>> >
>> > Is the AMD GPU exposing all functionality in its kernel driver or
>> > is there some userspace blob somewhere with lots of e.g. GL
>> > goodies?
>> >
>> All the functionality for the kernel driver of AMD GPU Z430/Z160 (now
>> belongs to Qualcom) is exposed. But we need accompanied userspace library to
>> call these functionality (buffer management, command submission, ...).
>
> Who owns these components? If it's closed source, the only options we
> have are lobbying for complete release of the specs for a reimplementation
> or reverse-engineering the drivers, which may at least get easier with
> a user space driver than it would be with a kernel driver.
>
> Until there is a solution with an open source user space part, I would
> suggest that the driver better be dropped from the Freescale BSP and
> we should at least not waste time reviewing it.
>
>        Arnd

>From a quick look it also seems that the API exposed to userspace
would allow easy abuse of the GPU to access any system ram. There is a
reason we do expensive command checking in the other amd gpu driver
(drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/*cs.c files)

Cheers,
Jerome

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-13 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <A0FE16A2704AB741A3E0B2C29D6E77FF015710@039-SN1MPN1-004.039d.mgd.msft.net>
     [not found] ` <AANLkTinV7C90jy=DdLMO6=_dti6TsTCRsD8o3tTT0J=3@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTimu8MKUoF7ywpkdGXdLocDp9e_5ya-0Rh0JFhhx@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTimu8MKUoF7ywpkdGXdLocDp9e_5ya-0Rh0JFhhx-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-13 15:18       ` Freescale Linux BSP review Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-13 16:11         ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTikqKb238p5kdwWu55-e5rr9CfP8gPdYE=ztpms_-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14  2:04             ` Jammy Zhou
2010-12-14  2:06               ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTinRdmfL+Jce_gRwuWP_F-G82a9hsUwtH8H-+_N5-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14  2:30                   ` Jammy Zhou
2010-12-14  2:35                     ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]         ` <201012131618.04298.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14  1:59           ` Jammy Zhou
     [not found]             ` <AANLkTikpN0ALBKmhaT6eQG2oecti-81FPB80OPp3+VcS-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14  2:35               ` Eric Miao
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTikNW7T2_=UMB=uf7w+fW5V7FX0wA4jrx8J=2EZL-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14  8:59                   ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2010-12-14 13:15                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-20 16:18           ` Matt Sealey
     [not found]             ` <AANLkTinGNK3Jv5wfjmAzwvV3xcKsTVcO7PLb+v7Py0TX-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 17:17               ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTikgXy8jr5Obxk9CYTX8BUvsOiO5sMpUsEcsdQxV-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 17:41                   ` Matt Sealey
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTikxidr1eFmMxFNWGLmpN4Kn1MTcDiX52yUXBbR7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 18:07                       ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                         ` <AANLkTimO9gQ3uOor3DBW8=EAe8-cVPz9jm9-UmGv1GhV-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-20 19:29                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-20 20:14                     ` Alan Cox
2010-12-20 19:54               ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-20 20:09                 ` Alan Cox
2010-12-21  2:17                   ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1012210313040.9770-APZTmCvJ1e4cvTeJY7g42e4opr6GJZWbqwyb7XGsRfw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-21 11:50                       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                         ` <201012211250.10793.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-21 17:29                           ` Matt Sealey
2010-12-21 19:12                             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                             ` <AANLkTimotkPt5fc8-3DPSK5urD-1+XroagLcFdhjc4zu-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22  1:32                               ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-22  1:54                                 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
     [not found]                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1012220252230.9770-APZTmCvJ1e4cvTeJY7g42e4opr6GJZWbqwyb7XGsRfw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22  2:36                                     ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-22  3:07                                       ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
     [not found]                                 ` <AANLkTikENVUbf76ck6XeXC0+na9-EpEtWgjS_mD2G26--JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22  7:51                                   ` Matt Sealey
     [not found]                                     ` <AANLkTinKO8UHO8RcrVHyZi3jbi_Y==-HZ86eBnfXBgZ--JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 11:02                                       ` Konstantinos Margaritis
     [not found]                                         ` <AANLkTikmK+SOupH3WsB338QQ=Wwg6dGgaM6SfK_XxUC9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 11:49                                           ` David Rusling
     [not found]                                             ` <865A2CE2-D623-4478-A96B-6DF7942AEC39-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 17:20                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                                 ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1012221006130.10437-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 17:38                                                   ` Tom Gall
     [not found]                                                     ` <AANLkTimbn4FBQM0FQCyuweTE7g0__T5rnvpcPrZdGDuN-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 18:23                                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-22 18:39                                                 ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
     [not found]                                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1012221932410.9770-APZTmCvJ1e4cvTeJY7g42e4opr6GJZWbqwyb7XGsRfw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 18:49                                                     ` Konstantinos Margaritis
     [not found]                                                       ` <AANLkTi=Zo=Y=9170DCp1_7uzwePzmzXxxroobXzExHOM-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 19:22                                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                                           ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1012221411330.10437-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 19:46                                                             ` Konstantinos Margaritis
     [not found]                                                               ` <AANLkTikCPqqjhU+QtYtpYusgQfOBAtK2vWX3b6gidaFF-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-22 20:09                                                                 ` Dave Airlie
2010-12-22 20:29                                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-22 23:52                                                                   ` Xavier Bestel
2010-12-23  0:19                                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-22 20:30                                                               ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
2010-12-22 20:20                                                       ` Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
2010-12-23 17:17                                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                                 ` <20101223171701.72cb14db-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-23 17:40                                                   ` David Rusling
2010-12-22 18:23                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2010-12-23 16:46                               ` Alan Cox
2010-12-23 16:07             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-12-14  8:42         ` Dave Airlie

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