From: Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>
To: Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>
Cc: ML mesa-dev <mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org>,
ML dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Dylan Baker <dylan@pnwbakers.com>
Subject: Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC libdrm 0/2] Replace the build system with meson
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:55:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACvgo52o3wKPG-MSfVoOjQmcRXvCONjjCqZmaLMwrYO+nuUEAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15ada012eb8.277a.c6988b7ea6112e3e892765a0d4287e0c@jlekstrand.net>
Seems like we ended up all over the place, so let me try afresh.
Above all:
- Saying "I don't care" about your users is arrogant - let us _not_
do that, please ?
Even Linux distribution maintainers have responded that "upstream does
not care us", which is indicative that we should be more careful what
we say.
For the rest - we're dealing with two orthogonal issues here:
* Multiple build systems
I believe we'll all agree that I might be the person who's been in all
the build systems the most.
Yes I _would_ _love_ to drop it all but we simply _cannot_ do that yet:
- [currently] there is no viable solution for Android
- dropping the Autotools will lead to OpenBSD and NetBSD having to
write one from scratch, IIRC Solaris/FreeBSD and others are in similar
boat.
These projects have been getting closer to upstream and "forcing" the
extra obstacle is effectively giving them the middle finger.
* Slow build times
Before we jump into "the next cool thing", let us properly utilise
what we have at the moment.
- I've asked multiple times about numbers behind those "let's make
the build faster" patches, but never got any :-\
- I can improve things but would need access to a fancy XX core
system to do rudimentary benchmarks/checks and test patches.
Thanks
Emil
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Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-16 21:25 [RFC libdrm 0/2] Replace the build system with meson Dylan Baker
2017-03-16 21:25 ` [RFC libdrm 1/2] Port build system to meson Dylan Baker
2017-03-16 21:25 ` [RFC libdrm 2/2] remove autotools build Dylan Baker
2017-03-16 21:32 ` [RFC libdrm 0/2] Replace the build system with meson Ilia Mirkin
2017-03-16 21:57 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17 10:05 ` Neil Armstrong
2017-03-16 22:36 ` Marek Olšák
2017-03-16 23:11 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17 1:53 ` Marek Olšák
2017-03-17 4:15 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17 21:18 ` Marek Olšák
2017-03-22 17:26 ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-22 17:50 ` [Mesa-dev] " Marek Olšák
2017-03-16 23:35 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-17 0:21 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17 0:41 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-17 2:03 ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-17 2:28 ` Brian Paul
2017-03-22 17:59 ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-22 20:57 ` [Mesa-dev] " Dylan Baker
2017-03-22 22:02 ` Rob Clark
2017-03-22 22:15 ` Eric Anholt
2017-03-22 22:33 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24 14:03 ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 14:22 ` [Mesa-dev] " Daniel Stone
2017-03-24 15:47 ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-25 20:15 ` [Mesa-dev] " Rob Clark
2017-03-24 16:23 ` Bas Nieuwenhuizen
2017-03-17 4:12 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17 6:02 ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-20 13:55 ` Emil Velikov [this message]
2017-03-20 18:30 ` Matt Turner
2017-03-20 19:39 ` [Mesa-dev] " Emil Velikov
2017-03-20 21:28 ` Timothy Arceri
2017-03-20 21:38 ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-21 5:00 ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-21 16:00 ` Matt Turner
2017-03-23 12:23 ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-23 18:31 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-21 15:57 ` [Mesa-dev] " Matt Turner
2017-03-21 17:16 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-21 18:06 ` Matt Turner
2017-03-21 18:56 ` [Mesa-dev] " Emil Velikov
2017-03-21 19:08 ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-21 19:10 ` [Mesa-dev] " Matt Turner
2017-03-22 17:16 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-24 20:59 ` Chad Versace
2017-03-24 20:44 ` [Mesa-dev] " Chad Versace
2017-03-28 16:59 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-28 23:19 ` Timothy Arceri
2017-03-21 5:10 ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-21 16:11 ` [Mesa-dev] " Matt Turner
2017-03-24 16:58 ` randyf
2017-03-20 19:29 ` Rob Clark
2017-03-21 14:44 ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-21 15:13 ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2017-03-21 15:15 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-03-21 16:16 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-21 16:22 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-22 4:23 ` [Mesa-dev] " Jonathan Gray
2017-03-22 8:24 ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-22 21:05 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-23 8:13 ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-21 16:50 ` Kai Wasserbäch
2017-03-21 17:34 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-21 18:36 ` [Mesa-dev] " Kai Wasserbäch
2017-03-21 21:16 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-22 16:40 ` Alex Deucher
2017-03-22 17:07 ` Rob Clark
2017-03-22 20:10 ` [Mesa-dev] " Dylan Baker
2017-03-22 21:48 ` Rob Clark
2017-03-23 21:56 ` Greg Hackmann
2017-03-23 22:14 ` Colin Cross
2017-03-23 23:56 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24 0:03 ` [Mesa-dev] " Colin Cross
2017-03-24 16:54 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-23 1:18 ` [Mesa-dev] " Jonathan Gray
2017-03-23 1:38 ` Rob Clark
2017-03-24 13:42 ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 17:13 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24 17:51 ` Eric Anholt
2017-03-24 18:34 ` [Mesa-dev] " Daniel Stone
2017-03-24 19:10 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2017-03-24 19:44 ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 20:08 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2017-03-24 21:16 ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 21:20 ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-24 21:34 ` [Mesa-dev] " Rob Clark
2017-03-25 1:25 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24 21:09 ` [Mesa-dev] " Rob Clark
2017-03-23 11:39 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-23 17:54 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-25 1:06 ` Kenneth Graunke
2017-03-22 22:30 ` [Mesa-dev] " Eric Anholt
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