From: Anusha Srivatsa <asrivats@redhat.com>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
"uma.shankar@intel.com" <uma.shankar@intel.com>,
ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com
Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Jessica Zhang <quic_jesszhan@quicinc.com>,
Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] drm/panel: Add refcount support
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 15:43:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN9Xe3QHqPDPUQ7gsf278Nj0GC1fO-sGxoW3Ln4=h52QUM804g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875xi3im1r.fsf@intel.com>
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On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 5:22 AM Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2025, Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Is it really surprising you get some pushback when you are using a
> > design that is the complete opposite to what every user of it for the
> > last decade has been doing?
>
> The opposite is also true.
>
> If you create a design that does not cleanly fit the model of the
> biggest drivers in the subsystem, and expect massive refactors just for
> the sake of conforming to the design to be able to use any of it, you'll
> also get pushback.
>
> > This one is usable, but you rule out the way you could use it.
>
> I think you're off-hand and completely dismissing the amount of work it
> would be. And still I'm not even ruling it out, but there has to be a
> way to start off in small incremental steps, and use the parts that
> work. And it's not like we're averse to refactoring in the least,
> everyone knows that.
>
> > I guess it's clear now that you won't consider anything else. I wonder
> > why you started that discussion in the first place if you already have
> > a clear mind on how to get things moving forward.
>
> I pointed out what I think is a bug in drm_panel, with nothing but good
> intentions, and everything snowballed from there.
>
> There has to be a middle ground instead of absolutes. Otherwise we'll
> just end up in deeper silos. And more arguments.
>
> BR,
> Jani.
>
>
Jani, Maxime,
Thinking out loud of different solutions we can have to make sure we take
this forward.
Is it possible to have a variant of drm_panel_follower for the non ARM
devices? That way if at any point in
the future, the drm_panel_follower infrastructure has to be used, the
refcounting allocation can be bypassed?
Adding Uma and VIlle to the thread here.
Thanks!
Anusha
> --
> Jani Nikula, Intel
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-16 20:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-31 15:15 [PATCH v4 0/4] drm/panel: Panel Refcounting infrastructure Anusha Srivatsa
2025-03-31 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] drm/panel: Add new helpers for refcounted panel allocatons Anusha Srivatsa
2025-03-31 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] drm/panel: Add refcount support Anusha Srivatsa
2025-04-28 16:31 ` Jani Nikula
2025-04-29 9:00 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-04-29 9:22 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-05 6:53 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-05-05 18:52 ` Anusha Srivatsa
2025-05-08 14:27 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-08 21:48 ` Anusha Srivatsa
2025-05-09 9:24 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-09 11:41 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-05-09 12:45 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-13 2:40 ` Anusha Srivatsa
2025-05-13 12:19 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-13 13:06 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-05-14 9:22 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-16 19:43 ` Anusha Srivatsa [this message]
2025-05-19 12:23 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-19 16:05 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-05-20 10:09 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-23 11:34 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-27 15:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-05-27 19:24 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-27 14:57 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-05-27 19:40 ` Jani Nikula
2025-06-06 7:33 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-06-06 9:11 ` Jani Nikula
2025-03-31 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] drm/panel: deprecate old-style panel allocation Anusha Srivatsa
2025-03-31 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] drm/panel/panel-simple: Use the new allocation in place of devm_kzalloc() Anusha Srivatsa
2025-04-01 15:05 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] drm/panel: Panel Refcounting infrastructure Maxime Ripard
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