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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/20] rust: add new `num` module with useful integer operations
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:18:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DADKDQ1KGJJP.3T20P9V1D2PO1@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DADB6892Z31G.12LB1BVSGTEAQ@nvidia.com>

On Wed Jun 4, 2025 at 2:05 AM CEST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> On Wed Jun 4, 2025 at 8:02 AM JST, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:09 PM CEST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>>> On Thu May 29, 2025 at 4:27 PM JST, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>>> On Thu May 29, 2025 at 3:18 AM CEST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>>>>> On Thu May 29, 2025 at 5:17 AM JST, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed May 21, 2025 at 8:44 AM CEST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>>>>>>> +    /// Align `self` up to `alignment`.
>>>>>>> +    ///
>>>>>>> +    /// `alignment` must be a power of 2 for accurate results.
>>>>>>> +    ///
>>>>>>> +    /// Wraps around to `0` if the requested alignment pushes the result above the type's limits.
>>>>>>> +    ///
>>>>>>> +    /// # Examples
>>>>>>> +    ///
>>>>>>> +    /// ```
>>>>>>> +    /// use kernel::num::NumExt;
>>>>>>> +    ///
>>>>>>> +    /// assert_eq!(0x4fffu32.align_up(0x1000), 0x5000);
>>>>>>> +    /// assert_eq!(0x4000u32.align_up(0x1000), 0x4000);
>>>>>>> +    /// assert_eq!(0x0u32.align_up(0x1000), 0x0);
>>>>>>> +    /// assert_eq!(0xffffu16.align_up(0x100), 0x0);
>>>>>>> +    /// assert_eq!(0x4fffu32.align_up(0x0), 0x0);
>>>>>>> +    /// ```
>>>>>>> +    fn align_up(self, alignment: Self) -> Self;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't this `next_multiple_of` [1] (it also allows non power of 2
>>>>>> inputs).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.u32.html#method.next_multiple_of
>>>>>
>>>>> It is, however the fact that `next_multiple_of` works with non powers of
>>>>> two also means it needs to perform a modulo operation. That operation
>>>>> might well be optimized away by the compiler, but ACAICT we have no way
>>>>> of proving it will always be the case, hence the always-optimal
>>>>> implementation here.
>>>>
>>>> When you use a power of 2 constant, then I'm very sure that it will get
>>>> optimized [1]. Even with non-powers of 2, you don't get a division [2].
>>>> If you find some code that is not optimized, then sure add a custom
>>>> function.
>>>>
>>>> [1]: https://godbolt.org/z/57M9e36T3
>>>> [2]: https://godbolt.org/z/9P4P8zExh
>>>
>>> That's impressive and would definitely work well with a constant. But
>>> when the value is not known at compile-time, the division does occur
>>> unfortunately: https://godbolt.org/z/WK1bPMeEx
>>>
>>> So I think we will still need a kernel-optimized version of these
>>> alignment functions.
>>
>> Hmm what exactly is the use-case for a variable align amount? Could you
>> store it in const generics?
>
> Say you have an IOMMU with support for different pages sizes, the size
> of a particular page can be decided at runtime.
>
>>
>> If not, there are also these two variants that are more efficient:
>>
>> * option: https://godbolt.org/z/ecnb19zaM
>> * unsafe: https://godbolt.org/z/EqTaGov71
>>
>> So if the compiler can infer it from context it still optimizes it :)
>
> I think the `Option` (and subsequent `unwrap`) is something we want to
> avoid on such a common operation.

Makes sense.

>> But yeah to be extra sure, you need your version. By the way, what
>> happens if `align` is not a power of 2 in your version?
>
> It will just return `(self + (self - 1)) & (alignment - 1)`, which will
> likely be a value you don't want.

So wouldn't it be better to make users validate that they gave a
power-of-2 alignment?

> So yes, for this particular operation we would prefer to only use powers
> of 2 as inputs - if we can ensure that then it solves most of our
> problems (can use `next_multiple_of`, no `Option`, etc).
>
> Maybe we can introduce a new integer type that, similarly to `NonZero`,
> guarantees that the value it stores is a power of 2? Users with const
> values (90+% of uses) won't see any difference, and if working with a
> runtime-generated value we will want to validate it anyway...

I like this idea. But it will mean that we have to have a custom
function that is either standalone and const or in an extension trait :(
But for this one we can use the name `align_up` :)

Here is a cool idea for the implementation: https://godbolt.org/z/x6navM5WK

> (I can already hear you saying "send that to upstream Rust!" ^_^;)

This one isn't as clear I'd say. The stdlib of Rust is strict on what
gets added. Since they already have `next_multiple_of`, adding a
`prev_multiple_of` sounds very reasonable, but a new type for powers of
2? That could be something they don't want to add. Ultimately I don't
know, but if we need it, we should build it ourselves first :)

---
Cheers,
Benno

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-04  7:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-21  6:44 [PATCH v4 00/20] nova-core: run FWSEC-FRTS to perform first stage of GSP initialization Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:44 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] rust: dma: expose the count and size of CoherentAllocation Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  8:00   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-22  5:24     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21 12:43   ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-21 15:57     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-21 15:59       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-22  5:29     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-02  9:24       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-21  6:44 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] rust: make ETIMEDOUT error available Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  7:27   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-21  6:44 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] rust: sizes: add constants up to SZ_2G Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21 12:45   ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-21  6:44 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] rust: add new `num` module with useful integer operations Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-22  4:00   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-22  8:44     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-22  9:31       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-28 19:56   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-29  1:35     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-28 20:17   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-29  1:18     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-29  7:27       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-02  9:39         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 22:53           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-03 23:54             ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-04  7:21               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-02 13:09         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-03 23:02           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-04  0:05             ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-04  7:18               ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-06-12 13:17                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-12 13:27                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-12 14:49                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-13  5:31                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] gpu: nova-core: use absolute paths in register!() macro Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 21:38   ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] gpu: nova-core: add delimiter for helper rules " Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 21:39   ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] gpu: nova-core: expose the offset of each register as a type constant Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 21:40   ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] gpu: nova-core: allow register aliases Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  8:37   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-22  5:14     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] gpu: nova-core: increase BAR0 size to 16MB Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 21:46   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-02 11:21     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] gpu: nova-core: add helper function to wait on condition Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] gpu: nova-core: wait for GFW_BOOT completion Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 21:51   ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-31 14:09     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-31 14:37       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31 14:45         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-02 11:21         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] gpu: nova-core: add DMA object struct Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 21:53   ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] gpu: nova-core: register sysmem flush page Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 21:57   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-02 11:09     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 11:20       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] gpu: nova-core: add falcon register definitions and base code Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 22:22   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-03  8:03     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-02 12:06   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03  7:59     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] gpu: nova-core: firmware: add ucode descriptor used by FWSEC-FRTS Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 22:23   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-02 12:26   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-04  3:58     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] nova-core: Add support for VBIOS ucode extraction for boot Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-27 20:38   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-29  6:47     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-03 21:15     ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-05 16:18       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-02 13:33   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 15:15     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-03  8:12       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-03 13:47         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-03 13:49           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 14:29     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-04 18:23     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-03 21:05   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-04 10:03     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-05 16:09     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-05 16:21       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-05 16:28         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] gpu: nova-core: compute layout of the FRTS region Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-03 21:14   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-04  4:18     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-04 10:24       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-05 13:14         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-04 10:23   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-05 13:36     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] gpu: nova-core: add types for patching firmware binaries Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-03 21:16   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-04 10:28   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-12  7:19     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-12 10:54       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-12 12:52         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] gpu: nova-core: extract FWSEC from BIOS and patch it to run FWSEC-FRTS Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-03 21:32   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-04  1:11     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-04 10:42   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-12  7:20     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-21  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] gpu: nova-core: load and " Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-29 21:30   ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-30 22:32     ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-04  1:37     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-03 21:45   ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-04  1:38     ` Alexandre Courbot

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