From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/11] drm/panel: merge the drm_kms_helper module into the drm module
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 16:16:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKX8KDDOTPM7.3OS616IO3E4UA@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260824-cuddly-aardwark-of-reward-0d93d4@houat>
Hi Maxime,
On Mon Aug 24, 2026 at 9:48 AM CEST, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2026 at 02:27:58PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> On Mon Aug 17, 2026 at 10:31 AM CEST, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2026 at 04:05:52PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> >> Work is in progress to make every drm_panel automatically create a
>> >> panel_bridge [0][1].
>> >>
>> >> This requires the panel code to call the drm_panel_bridge APIs. However
>> >> this would create a circular dependency loop on modular builds:
>> >>
>> >> __devm_drm_panel_alloc() [drm]
>> >> -> drm_panel_bridge_add() [drm_kms_helper]
>> >> -> drm_bridge.c APIs [drm]
>> >>
>> >> Moving just the panel_brige.o file from [drm_kms_helper] to [drm] does not
>> >> work because the panel bridge code uses the drm_atomic_helper and
>> >> drm_probe_helper which add further dependencies on symbols in the
>> >> [drm_kms_helper] module.
>> >>
>> >> So take a simple approach, and move the entire drm_kms_helper into the
>> >> [drm] module.
>> >>
>> >> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/emuj2innmp6zmzd7pyakqzjqpdzhly6qfhakya3ydwmd63pl26@5jwxaidpikjw/ [0]
>> >> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250206-hotplug-drm-bridge-v6-8-9d6f2c9c3058@bootlin.com/ [1]
>> >> Signed-off-by: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
>> >
>> > So, that's not an option. However, why do we need drm_panel_bridge_add()
>> > after this work is done? If we want to create a bridge for every panel,
>> > then the bridge implementation can live in drm_panel.c, which is part of
>> > the drm module.
>> >
>> > And we'd essentially move drm_panel_bridge into drm_panel.c, and make it
>> > private.
>>
>> Yes in theory, but the panel_bridge code uses other parts of the
>> drm_kms_helper module: drm_atomic_helper and drm_probe_helper, maybe more,
>> so we'd have to move them into the drm module too.
>
> Ah, right. What would happen if we were doing it the other way around
> then? Move drm_panel out of the main drm module?
Into the drm_kms_helper module?
I had a look and did some experiments and I found at least one user in the drm
module calling a drm_panel API, and guess who:
drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() (in drm_of.c, drm module)
-> calls of_drm_find_panel (in drm_panel.c, drm_kms_helper module)
Based on our discussion after patch 3, I'm not sure
drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() will disappear soon. If it doesn't, I guess
we can try to move drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() into bridge/panel.c which
is in the drm_kms_helper module (and from drm_of.h info
drm_bridge.h?). That however might trigger build failures for drivers which
currently don't select DRM_KMS_HELPER and which would have to select it.
I'll give it a try, and if I see major drawbacks I will get back to moving
all the drm_kms_helper code into the main drm module.
>> Is it worth trying to identify only the closure of files in drm_kms_helpers
>> that are actually used by the panel_bridg, and move only them? That'd mean
>> having some *_helper.c files in the drm module and other *_helper.c files
>> in the drm module.
>>
>> There's a licensing aspect too: drm_panel.c is MIT-licensed, bridge/panel.c
>> is GPL-2.0-or-later. However my understanding is that we can merge the two
>> into a single file and the result would all be GPL-2.0-or-later, so that is
>> an option.
>
> Yeah, that's not a concern.
Good, thanks for the feedback on this.
Luca
--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-24 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-14 14:05 [PATCH 00/11] drm/panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 01/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: simplify freeing the remote node pointer Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:21 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 02/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: simplify error return paths Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:23 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 03/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: prioritize the bridge, not the panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:20 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 8:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:23 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-24 8:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 14:15 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 04/11] drm/panel: merge the drm_kms_helper module into the drm module Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:13 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 8:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:27 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-24 7:48 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 14:16 ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 05/11] drm/bridge: panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 14:07 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:42 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:30 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 06/11] drm/bridge: tc358767: don't create a panel_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 07/11] drm/bridge: waveshare-dsi: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 08/11] drm/mcde: dsi: simplify device_node management using scoped for_each variant Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:19 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 8:43 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:25 ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-17 12:34 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 09/11] drm/mcde: dsi: don't create a panel_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:24 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 12:23 ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 10/11] drm/bridge: fsl-ldb: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:18 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 11/11] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:23 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-14 14:13 ` [PATCH 00/11] drm/panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
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