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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v6 00/21] DEPT(Dependency Tracker)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 11:11:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YoYXvsgVJwwaWrrZ@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YnuKQ9UIhk9WYoz7@hyeyoo>

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 07:04:51PM +0900, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 08:39:29AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 08:18:12PM +0900, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 09:16:37AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > > > CASE 1.
> > > > 
> > > >    lock L with depth n
> > > >    lock_nested L' with depth n + 1
> > > >    ...
> > > >    unlock L'
> > > >    unlock L
> > > > 
> > > > This case is allowed by Lockdep.
> > > > This case is allowed by DEPT cuz it's not a deadlock.
> > > > 
> > > > CASE 2.
> > > > 
> > > >    lock L with depth n
> > > >    lock A
> > > >    lock_nested L' with depth n + 1
> > > >    ...
> > > >    unlock L'
> > > >    unlock A
> > > >    unlock L
> > > > 
> > > > This case is allowed by Lockdep.
> > > > This case is *NOT* allowed by DEPT cuz it's a *DEADLOCK*.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, in previous threads we discussed this [1]
> > > 
> > > And the case was:
> > > 	scan_mutex -> object_lock -> kmemleak_lock -> object_lock
> > > And dept reported:
> > > 	object_lock -> kmemleak_lock, kmemleak_lock -> object_lock as
> > > 	deadlock.
> > > 
> > > But IIUC - What DEPT reported happens only under scan_mutex and it
> > > is not simple just not to take them because the object can be
> > > removed from the list and freed while scanning via kmemleak_free()
> > > without kmemleak_lock and object_lock.

The above kmemleak sequence shouldn't deadlock since those locks, even
if taken in a different order, are serialised by scan_mutex. For various
reasons, trying to reduce the latency, I ended up with some
fine-grained, per-object locking.

For object allocation (rbtree modification) and tree search, we use
kmemleak_lock. During scanning (which can take minutes under
scan_mutex), we want to prevent (a) long latencies and (b) freeing the
object being scanned. We release the locks regularly for (a) and hold
the object->lock for (b).

In another thread Byungchul mentioned:

|    context X			context Y
| 
|    lock mutex A		lock mutex A
|    lock B			lock C
|    lock C			lock B
|    unlock C			unlock B
|    unlock B			unlock C
|    unlock mutex A		unlock mutex A
| 
| In my opinion, lock B and lock C are unnecessary if they are always
| along with lock mutex A. Or we should keep correct lock order across all
| the code.

If these are the only two places, yes, locks B and C would be
unnecessary. But we have those locks acquired (not nested) on the
allocation path (kmemleak_lock) and freeing path (object->lock). We
don't want to block those paths while scan_mutex is held.

That said, we may be able to use a single kmemleak_lock for everything.
The object freeing path may be affected slightly during scanning but the
code does release it every MAX_SCAN_SIZE bytes. It may even get slightly
faster as we'd hammer a single lock (I'll do some benchmarks).

But from a correctness perspective, I think the DEPT tool should be
improved a bit to detect when such out of order locking is serialised by
an enclosing lock/mutex.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-04  8:17 [PATCH RFC v6 00/21] DEPT(Dependency Tracker) Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 01/21] llist: Move llist_{head, node} definition to types.h Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 02/21] dept: Implement Dept(Dependency Tracker) Byungchul Park
2022-05-21  3:24   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 03/21] dept: Apply Dept to spinlock Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 04/21] dept: Apply Dept to mutex families Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 05/21] dept: Apply Dept to rwlock Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 06/21] dept: Apply Dept to wait_for_completion()/complete() Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 07/21] dept: Apply Dept to seqlock Byungchul Park
2022-05-21  5:25   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-05-24  6:00     ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 08/21] dept: Apply Dept to rwsem Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 09/21] dept: Add proc knobs to show stats and dependency graph Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 10/21] dept: Introduce split map concept and new APIs for them Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 11/21] dept: Apply Dept to wait/event of PG_{locked, writeback} Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 12/21] dept: Apply SDT to swait Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 13/21] dept: Apply SDT to wait(waitqueue) Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 14/21] locking/lockdep, cpu/hotplus: Use a weaker annotation in AP thread Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 15/21] dept: Distinguish each syscall context from another Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 16/21] dept: Distinguish each work " Byungchul Park
2022-05-04 11:23   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 17/21] dept: Disable Dept within the wait_bit layer by default Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 18/21] dept: Disable Dept on struct crypto_larval's completion for now Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 19/21] dept: Differentiate onstack maps from others of different tasks in class Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 20/21] dept: Do not add dependencies between events within scheduler and sleeps Byungchul Park
2022-05-04  8:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 21/21] dept: Unstage wait when tagging a normal sleep wait Byungchul Park
2022-05-04 18:17 ` [PATCH RFC v6 00/21] DEPT(Dependency Tracker) Linus Torvalds
2022-05-06  0:11   ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-07  7:20     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-05-09  0:16       ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-09 20:47         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-05-09 23:38           ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-10 14:12             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-05-10 23:26               ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-10 11:18         ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-05-10 23:39           ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-11 10:04             ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-05-19 10:11               ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2022-05-23  2:43                 ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-09  1:22   ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-09 21:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-05-09 22:28   ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-05-10  0:32     ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-10  1:32       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-05-10  5:37         ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-11  1:16           ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-12  5:25 ` [REPORT] syscall reboot + umh + firmware fallback Byungchul Park
2022-05-12  9:15   ` Tejun Heo
2022-05-12 11:18     ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-12 13:56       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-05-23  1:10         ` Byungchul Park
2022-05-12 16:41       ` Tejun Heo

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