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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Freedreno] [PATCH RFC v1 00/52] drm/crtc: Rename struct drm_crtc::dev to drm_dev
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 19:06:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZLAu5fy7bCUJjvMs@orome> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230713153936.k2m6aj34vptj5vf7@pengutronix.de>

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On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 05:39:36PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:41:45AM -0400, Sean Paul wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 9:04 AM Uwe Kleine-König
> > > But even with the one-patch-per-rename approach I'd consider the
> > > renaming a net win, because ease of understanding code has a big value.
> > > It's value is not so easy measurable as "conflicts when backporting",
> > > but it also matters in say two years from now, while backporting
> > > shouldn't be an issue then any more.
> > 
> > You've rightly identified the conjecture in your statement. I've been
> > on both sides of the argument, having written/maintained drm code
> > upstream and cherry-picked changes to a downstream kernel. Perhaps
> > it's because drm's definition of dev is ingrained in my muscle memory,
> > or maybe it's because I don't do a lot of upstream development these
> > days, but I just have a hard time seeing the benefit here.
> 
> I see that my change doesn't immediately benefit those who are already
> at home in drivers/gpu/drm. So it's quite understandable that someone in
> a senior role (long time contributor or maintainer) doesn't see a big
> upside.
> 
> In contrast I think my change (with its indisputable cost) lowers the
> bar for new contributors to drm. IMHO that's something a maintainer has
> to have on their radar, too, and that's easily undervalued in my
> experience.

To be honest, DRM/KMS is quite a complex subsystem, so whether dev is
struct device or struct drm_device doesn't really do anything to move
the bar in either direction.

Thierry

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-13 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-12  9:46 [PATCH RFC v1 00/52] drm/crtc: Rename struct drm_crtc::dev to drm_dev Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 01/52] drm/crtc: Start renaming " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 02/52] drm/core: Use struct drm_crtc::drm_dev instead of struct drm_crtc::dev Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 03/52] drm/amd: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 04/52] drm/armada: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12 19:13   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 05/52] drm/arm: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 06/52] drm/aspeed: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 07/52] drm/ast: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 08/52] drm/atmel-hlcdc: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 09/52] drm/exynos: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 10/52] drm/fsl-dcu: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 11/52] drm/gma500: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 12/52] drm/gud: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 13/52] drm/hisilicon: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 14/52] drm/hyperv: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 15/52] drm/i915: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 16/52] drm/imx: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 17/52] drm/ingenic: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 18/52] drm/kmb: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 19/52] drm/logicvc: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 20/52] drm/mcde: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 21/52] drm/mediatek: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 22/52] drm/meson: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 23/52] drm/mgag200: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 24/52] drm/msm: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 25/52] drm/mxsfb: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 26/52] drm/nouveau: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 27/52] drm/omapdrm: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 28/52] drm/panel-ili9341: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 29/52] drm/pl111: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 30/52] drm/qxl: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 31/52] drm/radeon: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 32/52] drm/renesas: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 33/52] drm/rockchip: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 34/52] drm/solomon: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 35/52] drm/sprd: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 36/52] drm/sti: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 37/52] drm/stm: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 38/52] drm/sun4i: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 39/52] drm/tegra: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 40/52] drm/tidss: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 41/52] drm/tilcdc: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 42/52] drm/tiny: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 43/52] drm/tve200: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 44/52] drm/udl: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 45/52] drm/vboxvideo: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 46/52] drm/vc4: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 47/52] drm/virtio: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 48/52] drm/vkms: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:46 ` [PATCH RFC v1 49/52] drm/vmwgfx: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:47 ` [PATCH RFC v1 50/52] drm/xen: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:47 ` [PATCH RFC v1 51/52] drm/xlnx: " Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12  9:47 ` [PATCH RFC v1 52/52] drm/crtc: Complete renaming struct drm_crtc::dev to drm_dev Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12 10:13 ` [PATCH RFC v1 00/52] drm/crtc: Rename " Paul Kocialkowski
2023-07-12 10:19 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-12 10:54   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12 10:46 ` Christian König
2023-07-12 11:02   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12 11:07     ` Julia Lawall
2023-07-12 11:13       ` Andrzej Hajda
2023-07-12 12:52     ` Maxime Ripard
2023-07-12 13:38       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12 13:51         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-12 13:53         ` Maxime Ripard
2023-07-12 13:53         ` Christian König
2023-07-13  0:06           ` Luben Tuikov
2023-07-12 16:23         ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-07-12 14:34 ` Jani Nikula
2023-07-12 16:10   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-13  6:52     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-07-13 10:03       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-13  7:47     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-13  9:03     ` Jani Nikula
2023-07-13  9:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-07-13  9:54       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-12 18:31   ` [Freedreno] " Sean Paul
2023-07-12 19:22     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-07-13  7:48     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-13 13:03     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-13 14:41       ` Sean Paul
2023-07-13 15:09         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-13 15:14           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-07-13 15:30             ` Maxime Ripard
2023-07-14  7:38             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-13 15:39         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-07-13 17:06           ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2023-07-13  7:18   ` Thierry Reding
2023-07-13  7:54 ` Thomas Zimmermann

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