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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Matthew Brost" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] drm/ttm: move LRU walk defines into new internal header
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 19:53:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zs4Ss8LJ-n9NbBcb@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zs4EPT1DR7OrE5X-@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 06:52:13PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 03:19:29PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> > Completely agree that this is complicated, but I still don't see the need
> > for it.
> > 
> > Drivers just need to use pm_runtime_get_if_in_use() inside the shrinker and
> > postpone all hw activity until resume.
> 
> Not good enough, at least long term I think. Also postponing hw activity
> to resume doesn't solve the deadlock issue, if you still need to grab ttm
> locks on resume.

Pondered this specific aspect some more, and I think you still have a race
here (even if you avoid the deadlock): If the condiditional rpm_get call
fails there's no guarantee that the device will suspend/resume and clean
up the GART mapping. The race gets a bit smaller if you use
pm_runtime_get_if_active(), but even then you might catch it right when
resume almost finished.

That means we'll have ttm bo hanging around with GART allocations/mappings
which aren't actually valid anymore (since they might escape the cleanup
upon resume due to the race). That doesn't feel like a solid design
either.
-Sima
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-27 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-10 12:42 Using drm_exec in TTM Christian König
2024-07-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 1/7] dma-buf/dma-resv: Introduce dma_resv_trylock_ctx() Christian König
2024-07-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/7] drm/exec: don't immediately add the prelocked obj Christian König
2024-07-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 3/7] drm/exec: provide trylock interface for eviction Christian König
2024-07-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 4/7] drm/ttm: move LRU walk defines into new internal header Christian König
2024-07-10 18:19   ` Matthew Brost
2024-07-11 12:01     ` Christian König
2024-07-11 16:00       ` Matthew Brost
2024-08-06  8:29       ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-19 11:03         ` Christian König
2024-08-19 11:38           ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-19 14:14             ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-19 15:26               ` Christian König
2024-08-20 10:37                 ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-20 15:45                   ` Christian König
2024-08-20 16:00                     ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-21  8:14                       ` Christian König
2024-08-21  8:57                         ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-21  9:31                           ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-21  9:48                           ` Christian König
2024-08-21 12:00                             ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-22  6:47                               ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-22  7:55                                 ` Christian König
2024-08-22  8:21                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-22  8:36                                     ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-22  9:29                                     ` Christian König
2024-08-22 13:16                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-27 16:58                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-22  9:23                         ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-22 13:19                           ` Christian König
2024-08-27 16:52                             ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-27 17:53                               ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2024-08-28 12:20                                 ` Christian König
2024-08-28 14:05                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-28 15:25                                     ` Christian König
2024-08-28 15:35                                       ` Alex Deucher
2024-08-28 15:45                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2024-09-02 11:07                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-09-18 12:57                                     ` Thomas Hellström
2024-10-02 11:30                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2024-10-02 11:32                                         ` Christian König
2024-10-02 11:36                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2024-10-07  9:08                                       ` Christian König
2024-10-09 13:39                                         ` Thomas Hellström
2024-10-09 14:17                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2024-10-10  8:00                                             ` Christian König
2024-10-11 16:52                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2024-08-27 18:24                               ` Alex Deucher
2024-09-02 11:00                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-21  7:02                     ` Thomas Hellström
2024-07-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] drm/ttm: move needs_unlock into the walk Christian König
2024-07-10 12:43 ` [PATCH 6/7] drm/ttm: support using drm_exec during eviction v2 Christian König
2024-07-10 12:43 ` [PATCH 7/7] drm/amdgpu: use drm_exec during BO validation Christian König

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