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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
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	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 02/11] mm: convert track_pfn_insert() to pfnmap_sanitize_pgprot()
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 09:44:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBDXr-Qp4z0tS50P@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57f9480c-2f8c-4be8-864c-406fec917eb1@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 10:37:49PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 28.04.25 18:21, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 04:58:46PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > What it does on PAT (only implementation so far ...) is looking up the
> > > > > memory type to select the caching mode that can be use.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "sanitize" was IMHO a good fit, because we must make sure that we don't use
> > > > > the wrong caching mode.
> > > > > 
> > > > > update/setup/... don't make that quite clear. Any other suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm very poor on naming.. :( So far anything seems slightly better than
> > > > sanitize to me, as the word "sanitize" is actually also used in memtype.c
> > > > for other purpose.. see sanitize_phys().
> > > 
> > > Sure, one can sanitize a lot of things. Here it's the cachemode/pgrpot, in
> > > the other functions it's an address.
> > > 
> > > Likely we should just call it pfnmap_X_cachemode()/
> > > 
> > > Set/update don't really fit for X in case pfnmap_X_cachemode() is a NOP.
> > > 
> > > pfnmap_setup_cachemode() ? Hm.
> > 
> > Sounds good here.
> 
> Okay, I'll use that one. If ever something else besides PAT would require
> different semantics, they can bother with finding a better name :)
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > + * @pfn: the start of the pfn range
> > > > > > > + * @size: the size of the pfn range
> > > > > > > + * @prot: the pgprot to sanitize
> > > > > > > + *
> > > > > > > + * Sanitize the given pgprot for a pfn range, for example, adjusting the
> > > > > > > + * cachemode.
> > > > > > > + *
> > > > > > > + * This function cannot fail for a single page, but can fail for multiple
> > > > > > > + * pages.
> > > > > > > + *
> > > > > > > + * Returns 0 on success and -EINVAL on error.
> > > > > > > + */
> > > > > > > +int pfnmap_sanitize_pgprot(unsigned long pfn, unsigned long size,
> > > > > > > +		pgprot_t *prot);
> > > > > > >     extern int track_pfn_copy(struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma,
> > > > > > >     		struct vm_area_struct *src_vma, unsigned long *pfn);
> > > > > > >     extern void untrack_pfn_copy(struct vm_area_struct *dst_vma,
> > > > > > > diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > > > > > > index fdcf0a6049b9f..b8ae5e1493315 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > > > > > > @@ -1455,7 +1455,9 @@ vm_fault_t vmf_insert_pfn_pmd(struct vm_fault *vmf, pfn_t pfn, bool write)
> > > > > > >     			return VM_FAULT_OOM;
> > > > > > >     	}
> > > > > > > -	track_pfn_insert(vma, &pgprot, pfn);
> > > > > > > +	if (pfnmap_sanitize_pgprot(pfn_t_to_pfn(pfn), PAGE_SIZE, &pgprot))
> > > > > > > +		return VM_FAULT_FALLBACK;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Would "pgtable" leak if it fails?  If it's PAGE_SIZE, IIUC it won't ever
> > > > > > trigger, though.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Maybe we could have a "void pfnmap_sanitize_pgprot_pfn(&pgprot, pfn)" to
> > > > > > replace track_pfn_insert() and never fail?  Dropping vma ref is definitely
> > > > > > a win already in all cases.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It could be a simple wrapper around pfnmap_sanitize_pgprot(), yes. That's
> > > > > certainly helpful for the single-page case.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regarding never failing here: we should check the whole range. We have to
> > > > > make sure that none of the pages has a memory type / caching mode that is
> > > > > incompatible with what we setup.
> > > > 
> > > > Would it happen in real world?
> > > > > IIUC per-vma registration needs to happen first, which checks for
> > > memtype
> > > > conflicts in the first place, or reserve_pfn_range() could already have
> > > > failed.
> > > > > Here it's the fault path looking up the memtype, so I would expect it is
> > > > guaranteed all pfns under the same vma is following the verified (and same)
> > > > memtype?
> > > 
> > > The whole point of track_pfn_insert() is that it is used when we *don't* use
> > > reserve_pfn_range()->track_pfn_remap(), no?
> > > 
> > > track_pfn_remap() would check the whole range that gets mapped, so
> > > track_pfn_insert() user must similarly check the whole range that gets
> > > mapped.
> > > 
> > > Note that even track_pfn_insert() is already pretty clear on the intended
> > > usage: "called when a _new_ single pfn is established"
> > 
> > We need to define "new" then..  But I agree it's not crystal clear at
> > least.  I think I just wasn't the first to assume it was reserved, see this
> > (especially, the "Expectation" part..):
> > 
> > commit 5180da410db6369d1f95c9014da1c9bc33fb043e
> > Author: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
> > Date:   Mon Oct 8 16:28:29 2012 -0700
> > 
> >      x86, pat: separate the pfn attribute tracking for remap_pfn_range and vm_insert_pfn
> >      With PAT enabled, vm_insert_pfn() looks up the existing pfn memory
> >      attribute and uses it.  Expectation is that the driver reserves the
> >      memory attributes for the pfn before calling vm_insert_pfn().
> 
> It's all confusing.
> 
> We do have the following functions relevant in pat code:
> 
> (1) memtype_reserve(): used by ioremap and set_memory_XX
> 
> (2) memtype_reserve_io(): used by iomap
> 
> (3) reserve_pfn_range(): only remap_pfn_range() calls it
> 
> (4) arch_io_reserve_memtype_wc()
> 
> 
> Which one would perform the reservation for, say, vfio?

My understanding is it was done via barmap.  See this stack:

vfio_pci_core_mmap
  pci_iomap
    pci_iomap_range
      ... 
        __ioremap_caller
          memtype_reserve

> 
> 
> I agree that if there would be a guarantee/expectation that all PFNs have
> the same memtype (from previous reservation), it would be sufficient to
> check a single PFN, and we could document that. I just don't easily see
> where that reservation is happening.
> 
> So a pointer to that would be appreciated!

I am not aware of any pointer.. maybe others could chime in.

IMHO, if there's anything uncertain, for this one we could always decouple
this issue from the core issue you're working on, so at least it keeps the
old behavior (which is pure lookup on pfn injections) until a solid issue
occurs?  It avoids the case where we could introduce unnecessary code but
then it's much harder to justify a removal.  What do you think?

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-29 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-25  8:17 [PATCH v1 00/11] mm: rewrite pfnmap tracking and remove VM_PAT David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] x86/mm/pat: factor out setting cachemode into pgprot_set_cachemode() David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 16:16   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-28 16:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] mm: convert track_pfn_insert() to pfnmap_sanitize_pgprot() David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 19:31   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-25 19:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 23:59       ` Peter Xu
2025-04-28 14:58         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 16:21           ` Peter Xu
2025-04-28 20:37             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-29 13:44               ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-04-29 16:25                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-29 16:36                   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-25 19:56     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] x86/mm/pat: introduce pfnmap_track() and pfnmap_untrack() David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 16:53   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-28 17:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 18:58       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] mm/memremap: convert to pfnmap_track() + pfnmap_untrack() David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 20:00   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-25 20:14     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 16:54     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-28 17:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] mm: convert VM_PFNMAP tracking " David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 20:23   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-25 20:36     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 16:08       ` Peter Xu
2025-04-28 16:16         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 16:24           ` Peter Xu
2025-04-28 17:23             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 19:37               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-28 19:57                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-28 20:23                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 20:19                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 19:38   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-28 20:00     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-28 20:21       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 20:10   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-05 13:00     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-07 13:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-07 14:27         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] x86/mm/pat: remove old pfnmap tracking interface David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 20:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] mm: remove VM_PAT David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 20:16   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] x86/mm/pat: remove strict_prot parameter from reserve_pfn_range() David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 20:18   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] x86/mm/pat: remove MEMTYPE_*_MATCH David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 20:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-05 12:10     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-06  9:30       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] drm/i915: track_pfn() -> "pfnmap tracking" David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 20:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-25  8:17 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] mm/io-mapping: " David Hildenbrand
2025-04-28 16:06   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-28 16:14     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25  8:54 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] mm: rewrite pfnmap tracking and remove VM_PAT Ingo Molnar
2025-04-25  9:27   ` David Hildenbrand

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