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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com, ecourtney@nvidia.com,
	simona@ffwll.ch, nat@pixelcluster.dev, airlied@gmail.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] dma-buf: Add reference counting to dma_resv
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 11:25:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aff7eb27-22c1-4e84-91ab-627c2604e488@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alPwTypl8Y8PN7hz@gsse-cloud1.jf.intel.com>

On 7/12/26 21:51, Matthew Brost wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2026 at 03:10:58PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Sat Jul 11, 2026 at 3:27 AM CEST, Matthew Brost wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2026 at 08:52:41PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
>>>> This provides clearer ownership semantics and makes the code more
>>>> maintainable by removing the embedded allocation hack.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This looks a lot better to me. In particular, I agree with the last
>>> sentence in the commit message.
>>
>> I have to disagree with this, it is the opposite. As long as the struct
> 
> Daniilo is of course correct here, completely missed this when I looked.
> 
>> dma_resv::allocated fields and the corresponding semantics exists, this does
>> result into less clear ownership semantics.
>>
>> When the dma_resv is embedded in another object the reference count becomes
>> meaningless. If the object embedding the dma_resv is freed it doesn't matter
>> whether I have a reference count, it would a UAF regardless.
>>
> 
> Yes, I agree. The allocated field would need to be dropped to make this
> viable, and we would disallow embedding a dma-resv object into other
> objects (which I believe is the suggestion).

Yeah completely agree as well. This was basically just the first hacky version.

> This doesn't look too painful, as I can only find two instances of
> embedding in the kernel: drm_gem_object and i915_address_space and
> handful of stack variables.

The use case in the TTM BO deletion path is the only really ugly one as far as I can see.

It uses the drm_gem_object embedded reservation object to make sure memory allocation can't fail during deletion.

We need something like a dummy delete_resv allocated for each TTM BO during creation or something like that to avoid this.

But that in turn means potentially means taking a look at all TTM using drivers if/when they use this in their deletion path.

Doable but a bit more work. Probably also a good job for AI.

Question is also who is taking that work? @Natalie can you pick up from here?

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> Matt
> 
>> It is misleading (and hence error prone) to have an API where one can obtain a
>> reference count of an object where the underlying memory can be freed regardless
>> of the obtained reference count.
>>
>> A refernece count represents a shared ownership model, which is undermined if
>> the underlying memory is not owned by the reference count.
>>
>> That said, I don't mind the reference count, but we can't mix up exclusive
>> ownership (embedding a structure) and shared ownership (reference count).
>>
>>>> +static void dma_resv_release(struct kref *kref)
>>>>  {
>>>> -	/*
>>>> -	 * This object should be dead and all references must have
>>>> -	 * been released to it, so no need to be protected with rcu.
>>>> -	 */
>>>> +	struct dma_resv *obj = container_of(kref, struct dma_resv, refcount);
>>>> +
>>>>  	dma_resv_list_free(rcu_dereference_protected(obj->fences, true));
>>>>  	ww_mutex_destroy(&obj->lock);
>>>> +	if (obj->allocated)
>>>> +		kfree(obj);
>>>> +}


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-13  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-10 18:52 Refcounting dma_resv and using that for drm_exec support in TTM Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 01/12] dma-buf: Add reference counting to dma_resv Christian König
2026-07-11  1:27   ` Matthew Brost
2026-07-11 13:10     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-07-12 19:51       ` Matthew Brost
2026-07-13  9:25         ` Christian König [this message]
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 02/12] dma-buf/tests: Convert st-dma-resv tests to use dma_resv_alloc Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 03/12] drm/gem: Add helper for drm_gem_object resv assignment Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 04/12] drm/ttm: Switch LRU cursor to track dma_resv instead of buffer objects Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 05/12] drm/ttm: switch to ttm_bo_lru_for_each_reserved_guarded for swapout Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 06/12] drm/ttm: move delete handling into ttm_bo_evict Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 07/12] drm/ttm: use ttm_bo_lru_for_each_reserved_guarded in evict_all Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 08/12] drm/ttm: use dma_resv reference in ttm_device_clear_lru_dma_mappings Christian König
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 09/12] drm/ttm: nuke buffer refcounting Christian König
2026-07-11 13:26   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 10/12] drm/exec: add drm_exec_lock_resv function Christian König
2026-07-13 11:57   ` Thomas Hellström
2026-07-13 12:07     ` Christian König
2026-07-13 12:19       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 11/12] drm/ttm: support using drm_exec during eviction v4 Christian König
2026-07-13 11:59   ` Thomas Hellström
2026-07-10 18:52 ` [PATCH 12/12] drm/amdgpu: use drm_exec during BO validation Christian König
2026-07-13 11:32 ` Refcounting dma_resv and using that for drm_exec support in TTM Thomas Hellström

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