From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
David Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, "Dr. Greg" <greg@enjellic.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>,
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Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
phasta@kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
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open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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"open list:DMA MAPPING HELPERS" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:52:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b286d05d02671cbb8622d77ed9968dc3f16ba841.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250220163747.GA69996@nvidia.com>
On Thu, 2025-02-20 at 12:37 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > I think one of key advantages of open source is that people
> > stick
> > around for a very long time. Even when they switch jobs or move
> > around. Maybe the usual “for life” qualifier isn’t really a
> > great
> > choice, since it sounds more like a mandatory sentence than
> > something
> > done by choice. What I object to is the “dictator” part, since
> > if your
> > goal is to grow a great community and maybe reach world
> > domination,
> > then you as the maintainer need to serve that community. And
> > not that
> > the community serves you.
>
> +1
>
> I agree and try, as best I can, to embody this.
I keep four simple rules of email response list these days when
I response to LKML:
1. Be honest.
2. Address your concerns.
3. Ask for help where you need it.
4. Admit your possible misconceptions (getting things wrong is not a mistake).
It's quite easy actually shift away from these even if you
don't do it purposely. So I actually just read what I'm going
to respond and reflect to these :-) It's anyhow usually best
to keep a short break and breath-in/outs before triggering
send, right?
The fourth one addresses so called "toxic positive" responses
as addresses in the associated Mastodon thread [1] :-)
> Jason
[1] https://social.kernel.org/notice/ArH99Q2ErS20vJB7Tc
BR, Jarkko
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2025-02-05 18:52 ` On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.) Simona Vetter
2025-02-05 20:36 ` Dave Airlie
2025-02-06 9:19 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-06 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-07 12:16 ` Dr. Greg
2025-02-08 4:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-08 4:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-08 8:31 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-10 9:41 ` Icenowy Zheng
2025-02-10 10:24 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-13 3:49 ` Icenowy Zheng
2025-02-13 6:41 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-02-13 9:50 ` Icenowy Zheng
2025-02-13 11:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-13 12:26 ` Icenowy Zheng
2025-02-08 20:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-02-09 0:47 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-13 10:20 ` David Airlie
2025-02-20 16:24 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-20 16:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-20 16:52 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-02-13 19:52 ` Ronja Meyer
2025-02-13 19:22 ` 33KK
2025-02-06 19:37 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-06 20:16 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 17:14 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-02-07 18:02 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 18:16 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
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2025-02-10 17:28 ` Mark Brown
2025-02-14 7:10 ` Neal Gompa
2025-02-14 19:49 ` Al Viro
2025-02-19 15:03 ` Mark Brown
2025-02-07 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-07 19:18 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 18:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-02-07 9:41 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 10:20 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 10:51 ` Greg KH
2025-02-07 13:49 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-07 14:54 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-10 7:52 ` Simona Vetter
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