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Subject: [Bug 106625] AMD HEVC support for for libomxil-bellagio /
gst-plugins-omx
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:27:53 +0000
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--- Comment #6 from Daniel Stone ---
(In reply to Luke McKee from comment #2)
> I'm hoping AMD will get around to releasing their changes to LGPL licensed
> gstreamer-plugins-omx / libomxil-bellago
>=20
> It's mesa/Gallium that has the BSD/MIT license and all the code for
> libomix-belagio h265 support is already in the MESA source referred to in
> bug description.
>=20
> https://www.mesa3d.org/license.html
And from the code you linked here:
https://github.com/freedesktop/mesa/blob/master/src/gallium/state_trackers/=
omx/bellagio/vid_dec_h265.c
> To say gstreamer-plugins-omx and libomixl-bellagio is not gpl like you sa=
id
> on IRC would be incorrect.
>=20
> https://github.com/GStreamer/gst-omx/blob/master/COPYING
>=20
> https://sourceforge.net/p/omxil/omxil/ci/master/tree/COPYING
I never said that on IRC, and as far as I can tell no-one else did either. =
But
it's correct anyway - gst-omx is LGPL and _not_ GPL. Both have equivalent t=
erms
to allow those in possession of a binary to demand corresponding source, but
they are very different licenses.
> Now if I was stickler for making this a GPL request I'd be looking at the
> bundled gst-plugins-omx binary in to see if it has h265 support (though n=
ot
> enabled by default). But it makes you wonder why they package it?
>=20
> https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-for-Linux-
> Release-Notes.aspx
Right, I can see now that you're talking indeed about gst-omx. I was just
confused by the talk about and links to Bellagio (relevant to Mesa) at the
start. This is about gst-omx which we don't develop, and isn't released by =
the
Mesa project at all. If Mesa or freedesktop.org were releasing those binari=
es
then this would be the right forum, but it's not: AMD is doing the distribu=
tion
of, again, someone else's code.
It's important for us to be very clear; filing bugs on Mesa alleging that t=
here
have been GPL violations is pretty bad for both Mesa and freedesktop.org, a=
nd
super important to have rectified and clarified immediately.
> Seeing AMD is moving to tizonia in the last 3 months, that too lacks h265
> support, so it has to be a custom interface to use h265.
>=20
> So consider this a GPL request for the source for AMD's build of
> gstreamer-plugins-omx for the binaries the release. Finger's crossed the
> source shows their patches :)
>=20
> [... LGPL explainer snipped ...]
>=20=20
> Sorry Daniel but you are just plain wrong.
Yes, the AMD distribution of gst-omx does seem - on the face of it - like it
would require an accompanying source offer.
But, on the other hand:
- distribution of Bellagio is not relevant, as it is licensed under
permissive terms
- any development AMD may or may not be doing on Tizonia is totally
irrelevant, as they do not appear to be distributing it currently;
copyright/licensing terms only apply on distribution
- the driver is distributed by amd.com, and not freedesktop.org
- the work you're referring to isn't really related to the Mesa project at
all
Please take this up with AMD. Again I appreciate your zeal, but please do n=
ot
throw claims of GPL violations around so lightly. I hope you understand why
I've had to figure out exactly what it is you're alleging and requesting he=
re,
and be very precise about it.
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t # 6
on bug 10662=
5
from Daniel Stone
(In reply to Luke McKee from comment #2)
> I'm hoping AMD will get around to releasing thei=
r changes to LGPL licensed
> gstreamer-plugins-omx / libomxil-bellago
>=20
> It's mesa/Gallium that has the BSD/MIT license and all the code for
> libomix-belagio h265 support is already in the MESA source referred to=
in
> bug description.
>=20
> https://www.mesa3d.org=
/license.html
And from the code you linked here:
https://github.com/freedesktop/mesa=
/blob/master/src/gallium/state_trackers/omx/bellagio/vid_dec_h265.c
> To say gstreamer-plugins-omx and libomixl-bellag=
io is not gpl like you said
> on IRC would be incorrect.
>=20
> h=
ttps://github.com/GStreamer/gst-omx/blob/master/COPYING
>=20
> https://sourceforge.net/p/omxil/omxil/ci/master/tree/COPYING
I never said that on IRC, and as far as I can tell no-one else did either. =
But
it's correct anyway - gst-omx is LGPL and _not_ GPL. Both have equivalent t=
erms
to allow those in possession of a binary to demand corresponding source, but
they are very different licenses.
> Now if I was stickler for making this a GPL requ=
est I'd be looking at the
> bundled gst-plugins-omx binary in to see if it has h265 support (thoug=
h not
> enabled by default). But it makes you wonder why they package it?
>=20
> https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Soft=
ware-for-Linux-
> Release-Notes.aspx
Right, I can see now that you're talking indeed about gst-omx. I was just
confused by the talk about and links to Bellagio (relevant to Mesa) at the
start. This is about gst-omx which we don't develop, and isn't released by =
the
Mesa project at all. If Mesa or freedesktop.org were releasing those binari=
es
then this would be the right forum, but it's not: AMD is doing the distribu=
tion
of, again, someone else's code.
It's important for us to be very clear; filing bugs on Mesa alleging that t=
here
have been GPL violations is pretty bad for both Mesa and freedesktop.org, a=
nd
super important to have rectified and clarified immediately.
> Seeing AMD is moving to tizonia in the last 3 mo=
nths, that too lacks h265
> support, so it has to be a custom interface to use h265.
>=20
> So consider this a GPL request for the source for AMD's build of
> gstreamer-plugins-omx for the binaries the release. Finger's crossed t=
he
> source shows their patches :)
>=20
> [... LGPL explainer snipped ...]
>=20=20
> Sorry Daniel but you are just plain wrong.
Yes, the AMD distribution of gst-omx does seem - on the face of it - like it
would require an accompanying source offer.
But, on the other hand:
- distribution of Bellagio is not relevant, as it is licensed under
permissive terms
- any development AMD may or may not be doing on Tizonia is totally
irrelevant, as they do not appear to be distributing it currently;
copyright/licensing terms only apply on distribution
- the driver is distributed by amd.com, and not freedesktop.org
- the work you're referring to isn't really related to the Mesa project at
all
Please take this up with AMD. Again I appreciate your zeal, but please do n=
ot
throw claims of GPL violations around so lightly. I hope you understand why
I've had to figure out exactly what it is you're alleging and requesting he=
re,
and be very precise about it.
You are receiving this mail because:
- You are the assignee for the bug.
=
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