From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org Subject: [Bug 106625] AMD HEVC support for for libomxil-bellagio / gst-plugins-omx Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:27:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2050178936==" Return-path: Received: from culpepper.freedesktop.org (culpepper.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.165]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FED96E473 for ; Wed, 23 May 2018 12:27:53 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" To: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org List-Id: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org --===============2050178936== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="15270784730.a0DBD.3176" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --15270784730.a0DBD.3176 Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:27:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D106625 --- Comment #6 from Daniel Stone --- (In reply to Luke McKee from comment #2) > I'm hoping AMD will get around to releasing their changes to LGPL licensed > gstreamer-plugins-omx / libomxil-bellago >=20 > It's mesa/Gallium that has the BSD/MIT license and all the code for > libomix-belagio h265 support is already in the MESA source referred to in > bug description. >=20 > https://www.mesa3d.org/license.html And from the code you linked here: https://github.com/freedesktop/mesa/blob/master/src/gallium/state_trackers/= omx/bellagio/vid_dec_h265.c > To say gstreamer-plugins-omx and libomixl-bellagio is not gpl like you sa= id > on IRC would be incorrect. >=20 > https://github.com/GStreamer/gst-omx/blob/master/COPYING >=20 > https://sourceforge.net/p/omxil/omxil/ci/master/tree/COPYING I never said that on IRC, and as far as I can tell no-one else did either. = But it's correct anyway - gst-omx is LGPL and _not_ GPL. Both have equivalent t= erms to allow those in possession of a binary to demand corresponding source, but they are very different licenses. > Now if I was stickler for making this a GPL request I'd be looking at the > bundled gst-plugins-omx binary in to see if it has h265 support (though n= ot > enabled by default). But it makes you wonder why they package it? >=20 > https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-for-Linux- > Release-Notes.aspx Right, I can see now that you're talking indeed about gst-omx. I was just confused by the talk about and links to Bellagio (relevant to Mesa) at the start. This is about gst-omx which we don't develop, and isn't released by = the Mesa project at all. If Mesa or freedesktop.org were releasing those binari= es then this would be the right forum, but it's not: AMD is doing the distribu= tion of, again, someone else's code. It's important for us to be very clear; filing bugs on Mesa alleging that t= here have been GPL violations is pretty bad for both Mesa and freedesktop.org, a= nd super important to have rectified and clarified immediately. > Seeing AMD is moving to tizonia in the last 3 months, that too lacks h265 > support, so it has to be a custom interface to use h265. >=20 > So consider this a GPL request for the source for AMD's build of > gstreamer-plugins-omx for the binaries the release. Finger's crossed the > source shows their patches :) >=20 > [... LGPL explainer snipped ...] >=20=20 > Sorry Daniel but you are just plain wrong. Yes, the AMD distribution of gst-omx does seem - on the face of it - like it would require an accompanying source offer. But, on the other hand: - distribution of Bellagio is not relevant, as it is licensed under permissive terms - any development AMD may or may not be doing on Tizonia is totally irrelevant, as they do not appear to be distributing it currently; copyright/licensing terms only apply on distribution - the driver is distributed by amd.com, and not freedesktop.org - the work you're referring to isn't really related to the Mesa project at all Please take this up with AMD. Again I appreciate your zeal, but please do n= ot throw claims of GPL violations around so lightly. I hope you understand why I've had to figure out exactly what it is you're alleging and requesting he= re, and be very precise about it. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= --15270784730.a0DBD.3176 Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:27:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated

Commen= t # 6 on bug 10662= 5 from Daniel Stone
(In reply to Luke McKee from comment #2)
> I'm hoping AMD will get around to releasing thei=
r changes to LGPL licensed
> gstreamer-plugins-omx / libomxil-bellago
>=20
> It's mesa/Gallium that has the BSD/MIT license and all the code for
> libomix-belagio h265 support is already in the MESA source referred to=
 in
> bug description.
>=20
> https://www.mesa3d.org=
/license.html

And from the code you linked here:
https://github.com/freedesktop/mesa=
/blob/master/src/gallium/state_trackers/omx/bellagio/vid_dec_h265.c

> To say gstreamer-plugins-omx and libomixl-bellag=
io is not gpl like you said
> on IRC would be incorrect.
>=20
> h=
ttps://github.com/GStreamer/gst-omx/blob/master/COPYING
>=20
> https://sourceforge.net/p/omxil/omxil/ci/master/tree/COPYING

I never said that on IRC, and as far as I can tell no-one else did either. =
But
it's correct anyway - gst-omx is LGPL and _not_ GPL. Both have equivalent t=
erms
to allow those in possession of a binary to demand corresponding source, but
they are very different licenses.

> Now if I was stickler for making this a GPL requ=
est I'd be looking at the
> bundled gst-plugins-omx binary in to see if it has h265 support (thoug=
h not
> enabled by default). But it makes you wonder why they package it?
>=20
> https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Soft=
ware-for-Linux-
> Release-Notes.aspx

Right, I can see now that you're talking indeed about gst-omx. I was just
confused by the talk about and links to Bellagio (relevant to Mesa) at the
start. This is about gst-omx which we don't develop, and isn't released by =
the
Mesa project at all. If Mesa or freedesktop.org were releasing those binari=
es
then this would be the right forum, but it's not: AMD is doing the distribu=
tion
of, again, someone else's code.

It's important for us to be very clear; filing bugs on Mesa alleging that t=
here
have been GPL violations is pretty bad for both Mesa and freedesktop.org, a=
nd
super important to have rectified and clarified immediately.

> Seeing AMD is moving to tizonia in the last 3 mo=
nths, that too lacks h265
> support, so it has to be a custom interface to use h265.
>=20
> So consider this a GPL request for the source for AMD's build of
> gstreamer-plugins-omx for the binaries the release. Finger's crossed t=
he
> source shows their patches :)
>=20
> [... LGPL explainer snipped ...]
>=20=20
> Sorry Daniel but you are just plain wrong.

Yes, the AMD distribution of gst-omx does seem - on the face of it - like it
would require an accompanying source offer.

But, on the other hand:
  - distribution of Bellagio is not relevant, as it is licensed under
permissive terms
  - any development AMD may or may not be doing on Tizonia is totally
irrelevant, as they do not appear to be distributing it currently;
copyright/licensing terms only apply on distribution
  - the driver is distributed by amd.com, and not freedesktop.org
  - the work you're referring to isn't really related to the Mesa project at
all

Please take this up with AMD. Again I appreciate your zeal, but please do n=
ot
throw claims of GPL violations around so lightly. I hope you understand why
I've had to figure out exactly what it is you're alleging and requesting he=
re,
and be very precise about it.


You are receiving this mail because:
  • You are the assignee for the bug.
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