[Bug 107694] [wine] RAGE: texture problems

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            Bug ID: 107694
           Summary: [wine] RAGE: texture problems
           Product: Mesa
           Version: 18.2
          Hardware: Other
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: medium
         Component: Drivers/Gallium/radeonsi
          Assignee: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
          Reporter: sa@whiz.se
        QA Contact: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Created attachment 141292
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screenshot of bug in RAGE

The game RAGE starts and runs, but have some quite severe texture problems. See
attached screenshot.  The problem is especially bad when loading new areas.

Settings these options in default.cfg minimizes but doesn't get rid of the bug
fully:

jobs_numThreads 1
vt_maxPPF 128

as suggested in https://store.steampowered.com/news/6464/

This bug looks quite a lot like one that plagued the Windows drivers (ATI
Performance) back when the game was released:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-yl6pDFgtw

I have seen video of RAGE rendering fine with radeonsi
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgqgNrN16KM) so I tried jumping back quite a
few Mesa releases* to see if there was a regression somewhere, but AFAICT it is
still there as far back as 11.2.2. 

I'm guessing the bug happened as a change from radeon to amdgpu on the kernel
side?

* Using a hack for Wine to skip the check for a compat profile.


System environment:
-- system architecture: 64-bit
-- Linux distribution: Debian unstable
-- GPU: TONGA
-- Model: Asus Strix R9 285 2GB
-- Display connector: DVI
-- xf86-video-amdgpu: 18.0.1
-- xserver: 1.20.1
-- mesa: 18.2.0~rc4
-- drm: 2.4.93
-- kernel: 4.17

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--- Comment #1 from Timothy Arceri <t_arceri@yahoo.com.au> ---
As far as I can tell this is a game bug that was never actually fixed. It seems
they did some transcoding on Nvidia via CUDA which helped reduce the problem
there but never bothered to fix it for AMD cards.

There are other config settings  suggested I'm afraid you will just have to
experiment.

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--- Comment #2 from Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> ---
Created attachment 141396
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rendering on i965/skylake

Can't say that I agree. Attached is a screenshot from the same place in the
game, with the same settings on i965/Skylake, no texture bug. Software
rendering with llvmpipe is likewise fine.

Maybe you're thinking of the notorious texture pop-ins? This is quite a
different problem. 

The second video clip I linked to was recorded on a Tahiti GPU in 2016 and was
presumably using radeon and not amdgpu. Probably why my regression testing lead
nowhere.

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--- Comment #3 from James B <lejimster@gmail.com> ---
FYI,

This bug does not occur on the 64-bit version of the game only the 32-bit.  The
32-bit is very unstable for me also, it crashes quite often.

Unfortunately, the 64-bit version's in-game audio is broken on Proton
currently.

I have spent hours testing different settings on and off for over a year, never
managed to find a setting that cured the issue.  The game works fine on
proprietary drivers.

System info:
-- Arch 64-bit
-- GPU: RX Vega 56
-- Mesa 18.3.0-devel (git-e345247092)
-- Kernel 4.18.5

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--- Comment #4 from Timothy Arceri <t_arceri@yahoo.com.au> ---
(In reply to Sven Arvidsson from comment #2)
> Created attachment 141396 [details]
> rendering on i965/skylake
> 
> Can't say that I agree. Attached is a screenshot from the same place in the
> game, with the same settings on i965/Skylake, no texture bug. Software
> rendering with llvmpipe is likewise fine.
> 
> Maybe you're thinking of the notorious texture pop-ins? This is quite a
> different problem. 
> 
> The second video clip I linked to was recorded on a Tahiti GPU in 2016 and
> was presumably using radeon and not amdgpu. Probably why my regression
> testing lead nowhere.

Well I'll reopen the bug in case someone else takes a look. However unlike
comment #3 I have see the bug on 64-bit also and the issues in not present when
replaying an apitrace both of these things lead me to believe this is a game
bug.

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--- Comment #5 from Axel Davy <davyaxel0@gmail.com> ---
Hi,

The youtube video linked in the first comment has very likely been taken with
gallium nine (gearsongallium mentionned in the video was a website of a gallium
nine tester with a lot of performance comparisons and tests, plus a distro with
gallium nine).

Then maybe the 64 bit version of the game was used, since comment 3 mentions t
his version works better. I haven't tested the game myself.

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--- Comment #6 from Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> ---
(In reply to Axel Davy from comment #5)
> Hi,
> 
> The youtube video linked in the first comment has very likely been taken
> with gallium nine (gearsongallium mentionned in the video was a website of a
> gallium nine tester with a lot of performance comparisons and tests, plus a
> distro with gallium nine).
> 
> Then maybe the 64 bit version of the game was used, since comment 3 mentions
> t his version works better. I haven't tested the game myself.

The game uses OpenGL, so gallium nine wouldn't make a difference. Could very
well be 64bit though.

I was quite convinced that it was something specific to AMD given that the
11.11a catalyst driver is specifically mentioned as fix for a very similar
problem, and the release notes mention fixes specific to the 32bit version.

I'm not so sure anymore though, if it is reproducible on 64bit too. 

There's also this an entry about a similar problem on the PC Gaming Wiki,
suggestions include turning off anisotropic filter, antialiasing or Catalyst
A.I. (whatever that is?):
https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/RAGE#Corrupted.2C_black.2C_jagged_or_dotted_textures

Even if it is a game bug, it would be nice to find a workaround.

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--- Comment #7 from Timothy Arceri <t_arceri@yahoo.com.au> ---
For all my searching it seemed AMD released multiple "fixes" for this game but
people were still reporting issues many years after the release [1].

[1]
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/3ic13g/4_years_later_and_rage_is_still_a_glitchy_mess_on/

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--- Comment #8 from James B <lejimster@gmail.com> ---
All tests performed with same settings.

- Rage 32-bit on Windows 10: Works perfect out of the box no performance
issues, no issue with the virtual textures, no texture pop-in bug. I noticed
the player shadow wasn't rendered correctly, but everything else is fine.
Rage.exe RAM usage ~1,370MB on the Wasteland map.

- Rage 32-bit on Ubuntu w/ 18.20 Pro drivers: I experience good performance out
of the box but the virtual textures bug is present although very minor.  Can be
totally cured by setting "jobs_numThreads 1", texture pop in bug still
persists.
Rage.exe RAM usage ~780MB on the Wasteland map.  

- Rage 32-bit on Arch w/ latest mesa-git:  Massive issue with virtual textures
unless you set "jobs_numThreads 1" which reduces but doesn't fix the issue,
frame rate dips to 30-40fps in certain areas of the wasteland and the "texture
pop" is there regardless even if you enabled the texture cache, set the maxPPF
etc.
Rage.exe RAM usage ~730MB on the Wasteland map.

http://renderingpipeline.com/2012/03/megatextures-in-rage/

Adding "+com_allowconsole 1" to the launch options using "toggle
vt_showPageNumbers; vt_restart" you can see the wrong mipmap level and texture
numbers are being loaded for some of the tiles.

I'm wondering if somebody at AMD would have access to the changelogs for the
proprietary drivers back when the Rage patches were first introduced, it would
atleast point you in the right direction.

Heres a video I made comparing 32/64-bit versions on my system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUwq4dbnFkA

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--- Comment #9 from Michael Monreal <michael.monreal+bugs@gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Sven Arvidsson from comment #6)
> There's also this an entry about a similar problem on the PC Gaming Wiki

The Wiki as well as many other guides recommend to set fc_maxcachememoryMB to a
higher value. I noticed that on Proton, the highest value I can set is 96
(which is the default). Can this actually be set to values of 1024 and higher
on Windows?

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--- Comment #10 from Michael Monreal <michael.monreal+bugs@gmail.com> ---
(In reply to James B from comment #8)
> Heres a video I made comparing 32/64-bit versions on my system:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUwq4dbnFkA

Same results on my system (RX 580) running Ubuntu and Padoka PPA.

It would be nice to be able to play the 32 bit version as it supports
achievements, which the 64 bit version does not.

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--- Comment #11 from dmainman72@gmail.com ---
Seems like in Windows the problem is solved with AMD Catalyst Control Center by
turning on 'Surface Format Optimization' option.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=313663882

Maybe this can give some hints on how to solve this in Linux.

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