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To: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: [Bug 198669] Driver crash at radeon_ring_backup+0xd3/0x140 [radeon]
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:16:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-198669-2300-Q71CXy3HTH@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-198669-2300@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198669

--- Comment #12 from roger@beardandsandals.co.uk (roger@beardandsandals.co.uk) ---
On 7 February 2018 08:23:06 bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:

> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198669
>
> --- Comment #10 from Christian König (christian.koenig@amd.com) ---
> (In reply to roger@beardandsandals.co.uk from comment #9)
>> The most likely cause of this kind of mechanical issue is the signal path
>> between the video interface hardware and the outside world, either a dry
>> joint or a mechanical fault in the cable or cable connectors.
>
> That is what I absolutely agree about.
>
>> The driver has sufficient
>> information to determine that a hard failure has occured, and that failure
>> is probably not in the gpu itself. I would like to see the driver doing a
>> hard reset of the card with rigorous error checking. If it cannot reset the
>> GPU in graphical mode it should try to set the display hardware into a basic
>> console mode.
>
> And that is the part you don't seem to understand. The driver is trying
> exactly
> what you are describing.
>
> We detect a problem because of a timeout, e.g. the hardware doesn't respond
> in
> a given time frame on commands we send to it.
>
> What we do then is to query the hardware how far we proceeded in the
> execution
> and the hardware answered with a nonsense value. In other words bits are set
> in
> the response which should never be set.
>
> This is a clear indicator that the PCIe transaction for the register read
> aborted because the device doesn't response any more.
>
> The most likely cause of that is that the bus interface in the ASIC locked up
> because of an electrical problem (I think the ESD protection kicked in) and
> the
> only way to get out of that is a hard reset of the system.
>
> What we can try to do is trying to prevent further failures like the crash
> you
> described by checking the values read from the hardware. This way you can at
> least access the box over the network or blindly shut it down with keyboard
> short cuts.


Yes, I take your point. I was speculating on insufficient information. My 
apologies. The solution you propose sounds great.

Thank you for your patience.

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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-04 17:39 [Bug 198669] New: Driver crash at radeon_ring_backup+0xd3/0x140 [radeon] bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-04 17:41 ` [Bug 198669] " bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-04 18:26 ` bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-04 20:55 ` bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-05 12:16 ` bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-05 22:03 ` bugzilla-daemon
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2018-02-06 21:39 ` bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-07  8:22 ` bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-07  9:12 ` bugzilla-daemon
2018-02-07  9:16 ` bugzilla-daemon [this message]
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