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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67982
Priority: medium
Bug ID: 67982
Assignee: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Summary: After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum
voltage (trinity/ARUBA)
Severity: normal
Classification: Unclassified
OS: Linux (All)
Reporter: laszlo.kertesz@gmail.com
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64)
Status: NEW
Version: DRI CVS
Component: DRM/Radeon
Product: DRI
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Dmesg
I have Debian Testing 64-bit with the latest git mesa, xf86-ati, libdrm and
kernel 3.11 installed on a A8-5500 Trinity APU.
Watching the sensors output right after logging in, i noticed that the voltage
regulation doesnt actually work initially as the APU is powered by 1.34V
(maximum possible with the radeon driver). Nothing is going on so it should
have 0.9V (minimum voltage).
This lasts until some event - for example forcing dpms off then on or switching
vts to a text vt and back (probably some other events like playing video or
something, but the dpms and vt switching is consistently working) makes voltage
regulation kick in and start actually working lowering the APU voltage to 0.9
if idle then adjusting according to load and temperatures.
The real problem this creates if increased temperatures - after making the
voltage regulator work, the temperatures drop by as much as 10 C degrees in a
few seconds.
For reference - my sensors output lists ~17-18 C (not real obviously, seems
that these sensors report accurately after the CPU is loaded)) CPU temperatures
when idle and powered with 0.9 V.
In contrast, right after boot and doing nothing for minutes, powered with 1.34
V i have ~26-27 C idle temperatures.
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| Priority |
medium
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| Bug ID |
67982
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| Assignee |
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
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| Summary |
After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage (trinity/ARUBA)
|
| Severity |
normal
|
| Classification |
Unclassified
|
| OS |
Linux (All)
|
| Reporter |
laszlo.kertesz@gmail.com
|
| Hardware |
x86-64 (AMD64)
|
| Status |
NEW
|
| Version |
DRI CVS
|
| Component |
DRM/Radeon
|
| Product |
DRI
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Created attachment 83926 [details]
Dmesg
I have Debian Testing 64-bit with the latest git mesa, xf86-ati, libdrm and
kernel 3.11 installed on a A8-5500 Trinity APU.
Watching the sensors output right after logging in, i noticed that the voltage
regulation doesnt actually work initially as the APU is powered by 1.34V
(maximum possible with the radeon driver). Nothing is going on so it should
have 0.9V (minimum voltage).
This lasts until some event - for example forcing dpms off then on or switching
vts to a text vt and back (probably some other events like playing video or
something, but the dpms and vt switching is consistently working) makes voltage
regulation kick in and start actually working lowering the APU voltage to 0.9
if idle then adjusting according to load and temperatures.
The real problem this creates if increased temperatures - after making the
voltage regulator work, the temperatures drop by as much as 10 C degrees in a
few seconds.
For reference - my sensors output lists ~17-18 C (not real obviously, seems
that these sensors report accurately after the CPU is loaded)) CPU temperatures
when idle and powered with 0.9 V.
In contrast, right after boot and doing nothing for minutes, powered with 1.34
V i have ~26-27 C idle temperatures.
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
(trinity/ARUBA)
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--- Comment #1 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
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--- Comment #2 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
I have further information on this.
It seems that before the X server is started, the CPU voltage is correctly
regulated - it's at 0.9 v, when not doing anything, which is the correct
behavior.
But after x starts, the voltage jumps to 1.34 or 1.44 and stays there until i
dpms off/on the monitor. It seems that vt switching doesnt always help here.
If it works correctly and restart just the x server, it will go up again to
1.34, as the first time and i have to do the dpms off/on thing to bring it back
to work.
Also it seems that this voltage increase kicks in only after i logged in and
the desktop (xfce) is loaded - at the lightdm login screen i still have 0.9v.
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Comment # 2
on bug 67982
from Kertesz Laszlo
I have further information on this.
It seems that before the X server is started, the CPU voltage is correctly
regulated - it's at 0.9 v, when not doing anything, which is the correct
behavior.
But after x starts, the voltage jumps to 1.34 or 1.44 and stays there until i
dpms off/on the monitor. It seems that vt switching doesnt always help here.
If it works correctly and restart just the x server, it will go up again to
1.34, as the first time and i have to do the dpms off/on thing to bring it back
to work.
Also it seems that this voltage increase kicks in only after i logged in and
the desktop (xfce) is loaded - at the lightdm login screen i still have 0.9v.
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
(trinity/ARUBA)
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--- Comment #3 from Alex Deucher ---
You might try again with the bapm fixes in my drm-fixes tree:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/linux/log/?h=drm-fixes-3.12
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
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--- Comment #4 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
I use the mainline linux kernel (now 3.12 rc1+) merged with your drm-fixes-=
3.12
already.
This behavior is there and seemingly unchanged since i tried dpm with the
kernel 3.11 when was in rc stage.
Here is what i get from sensors and the debugfs radeon info:
radeon-pci-0008
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +0.0=C2=B0C (crit =3D +120.0=C2=B0C, hyst =3D +90.0=C2=B0C)
it8728-isa-0228
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0: +0.90 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in1: +1.64 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in2: +2.03 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in3: +2.04 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in4: +2.02 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in5: +2.22 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in6: +2.22 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
3VSB: +3.36 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +6.12 V)
Vbat: +3.31 V
fan1: 1573 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan2: 1046 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan3: 0 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan4: 0 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan5: 0 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
temp1: +31.0=C2=B0C (low =3D +127.0=C2=B0C, high =3D +127.0=C2=B0C=
) sensor =3D thermistor
temp2: -8.0=C2=B0C (low =3D +127.0=C2=B0C, high =3D +127.0=C2=B0C=
) sensor =3D thermistor
temp3: +14.0=C2=B0C (low =3D +127.0=C2=B0C, high =3D +127.0=C2=B0C=
) sensor =3D Intel PECI
intrusion0: OK
Radeon HD 7560D clocks:
uvd vclk: 0 dclk: 0
power level 0 sclk: 30400 vddc: 912
in0 is the CPU voltage - 0.9-1.44 volts, 1.44 is reached only in the errone=
ous
state sometimes, normal operations are between 0.9-1.36v. Troubling is this
initial high state because if you dont notice it youll get consitently high
temperatures because of the driver.
BTW when the dynamic voltage works, i have pretty much the same temperature=
as
with fglrx.
I wonder how vddc works - is it a totally separate voltage controlled
separately by the radeon driver? I have seen it 1.1 v or something when in0=
was
0.9 (vdpau playback for example).
Or in0 and vddc are the same thing, and its control is somehow shared betwe=
en
the acpi-cpufreq and radeon drivers?
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# 4
on bug 67982<=
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from Kertesz Laszlo
I use the mainline linux kernel (now 3.12 rc1+) merged with yo=
ur drm-fixes-3.12
already.
This behavior is there and seemingly unchanged since i tried dpm with the
kernel 3.11 when was in rc stage.
Here is what i get from sensors and the debugfs radeon info:
radeon-pci-0008
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +0.0=C2=B0C (crit =3D +120.0=C2=B0C, hyst =3D +90.0=C2=B0C)
it8728-isa-0228
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0: +0.90 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in1: +1.64 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in2: +2.03 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in3: +2.04 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in4: +2.02 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in5: +2.22 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
in6: +2.22 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +3.06 V)
3VSB: +3.36 V (min =3D +0.00 V, max =3D +6.12 V)
Vbat: +3.31 V
fan1: 1573 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan2: 1046 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan3: 0 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan4: 0 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
fan5: 0 RPM (min =3D 0 RPM)
temp1: +31.0=C2=B0C (low =3D +127.0=C2=B0C, high =3D +127.0=C2=B0C=
) sensor =3D thermistor
temp2: -8.0=C2=B0C (low =3D +127.0=C2=B0C, high =3D +127.0=C2=B0C=
) sensor =3D thermistor
temp3: +14.0=C2=B0C (low =3D +127.0=C2=B0C, high =3D +127.0=C2=B0C=
) sensor =3D Intel PECI
intrusion0: OK
Radeon HD 7560D clocks:
uvd vclk: 0 dclk: 0
power level 0 sclk: 30400 vddc: 912
in0 is the CPU voltage - 0.9-1.44 volts, 1.44 is reached only in the errone=
ous
state sometimes, normal operations are between 0.9-1.36v. Troubling is this
initial high state because if you dont notice it youll get consitently high
temperatures because of the driver.
BTW when the dynamic voltage works, i have pretty much the same temperature=
as
with fglrx.
I wonder how vddc works - is it a totally separate voltage controlled
separately by the radeon driver? I have seen it 1.1 v or something when in0=
was
0.9 (vdpau playback for example).
Or in0 and vddc are the same thing, and its control is somehow shared betwe=
en
the acpi-cpufreq and radeon drivers?
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--- Comment #5 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
I did some more poking and i found that setting the cpu governor to
"conservative" i get correct voltage handling at bootup after logging into
lightdm.
But if i restart lightdm and log in, it will get stuck at the 1.34-1.36 levels.
With ondemand after boot i always had (maybe 1 or 2 exceptions) the 1.34 and
1.36 voltage levels.
Its weird that in that state changing to a vt and back sometimes elevates the
voltage to 1.44v and keep it there.
I also removed and loaded again the acpi-cpufreq driver - after unloading, the
voltage is a fixed (it seems) 1.15v, after loading it again it jumps to 1.34
and stays there (or goes up to 1.36 and back sometimes) until i turn dpms force
off and on the monitor, after which it starts to change the voltage levels
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Comment # 5
on bug 67982
from Kertesz Laszlo
I did some more poking and i found that setting the cpu governor to
"conservative" i get correct voltage handling at bootup after logging into
lightdm.
But if i restart lightdm and log in, it will get stuck at the 1.34-1.36 levels.
With ondemand after boot i always had (maybe 1 or 2 exceptions) the 1.34 and
1.36 voltage levels.
Its weird that in that state changing to a vt and back sometimes elevates the
voltage to 1.44v and keep it there.
I also removed and loaded again the acpi-cpufreq driver - after unloading, the
voltage is a fixed (it seems) 1.15v, after loading it again it jumps to 1.34
and stays there (or goes up to 1.36 and back sometimes) until i turn dpms force
off and on the monitor, after which it starts to change the voltage levels
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
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--- Comment #6 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
It also seems that only if i use acpi=strict on the kernel command line the
conservative governor works well. Otherwise it is exactly the same as ondemand.
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Comment # 6
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It also seems that only if i use acpi=strict on the kernel command line the
conservative governor works well. Otherwise it is exactly the same as ondemand.
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
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Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 01:45:43 +0000
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--- Comment #7 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
With 3.12 rc3 and now rc4 kernels this bug seemso to be gone and replaced with
its opposite - the APU never reaches its maximum voltage (1.34) even under full
load (4 threads compiling) instead it stays at max 1.22v, thus torbo core is
never activated (maybe for a second at start?) and instead of sustained ~3.3
GHz i get with 1.34v i have something like this (max 2 cores are reported as
3.2GHz):
# cpufreq-aperf -o
CPU Average freq(KHz) Time in C0 Time in Cx C0 percentage
000 3168000 00 sec 987 ms 00 sec 012 ms 98
001 3168000 00 sec 998 ms 00 sec 001 ms 99
002 3168000 00 sec 990 ms 00 sec 009 ms 99
003 3200000 00 sec 997 ms 00 sec 002 ms 99
Granted, the temperatures are lower too (never reaching over 50C), but for that
+5C difference i would rather have +200MHz sustained speed (and the initial
~3.5 GHz).
The idle voltages are modified, they go as low as 0.7V, they are constantly
changing between 0.9 and 0.72 or so. Before it was only 0.9.
Maybe this is a acpi-cpufreq issue?
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Comment # 7
on bug 67982
from Kertesz Laszlo
With 3.12 rc3 and now rc4 kernels this bug seemso to be gone and replaced with
its opposite - the APU never reaches its maximum voltage (1.34) even under full
load (4 threads compiling) instead it stays at max 1.22v, thus torbo core is
never activated (maybe for a second at start?) and instead of sustained ~3.3
GHz i get with 1.34v i have something like this (max 2 cores are reported as
3.2GHz):
# cpufreq-aperf -o
CPU Average freq(KHz) Time in C0 Time in Cx C0 percentage
000 3168000 00 sec 987 ms 00 sec 012 ms 98
001 3168000 00 sec 998 ms 00 sec 001 ms 99
002 3168000 00 sec 990 ms 00 sec 009 ms 99
003 3200000 00 sec 997 ms 00 sec 002 ms 99
Granted, the temperatures are lower too (never reaching over 50C), but for that
+5C difference i would rather have +200MHz sustained speed (and the initial
~3.5 GHz).
The idle voltages are modified, they go as low as 0.7V, they are constantly
changing between 0.9 and 0.72 or so. Before it was only 0.9.
Maybe this is a acpi-cpufreq issue?
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
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--- Comment #8 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
As this bug isnt present in the newer kernels, i mark it as resolved.
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Subject: [Bug 67982] After boot, the APU is powered with its maximum voltage
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--- Comment #9 from Kertesz Laszlo ---
It seems that commit 4076a65544e2de310cbf4eaadb13ee15bbfaaf4f, related to the
radeon dpm solved this issue.
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