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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
To: "Zeng, Oak" <oak.zeng@intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: bulk_move in ttm_resource manager
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2023 09:17:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d29ad7b31b39e95280cc96ad93613967467721bb.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA1PR11MB69918FBD6B32447AEB6E0F6A92CBA@SA1PR11MB6991.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, 2023-10-04 at 03:52 +0000, Zeng, Oak wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>  
> As a follow up to this thread:
> https://www.spinics.net/lists/dri-devel/msg410740.html, I started the
> work of moving the lru out of ttm_resource_manager and make it a
> common library for both ttm and svm. While look into the details of
> the bulk_move in ttm resource manager, I found a potential problem:
>  
> For simplicity, let’s say we only have one memory type and one
> priority, so ttm resource manager only maintains one global lru list.
> Let’s say this list has 10 nodes, node1 to node10.
>  
> But the lru_bulk_move is per vm. Let’s say vm1 has a bulk_move
> covering node range [node4, node7] and vm2 has a bulk_move covering
> node range [node6, node9]. Notice those two range has an overlap.
> Since two vm can simultaneously add nodes to lru, I think this
> scenario can happen.
>  
> Now if we perform a bulk move for vm1, moving [node4, node7] to the
> tail of the lru list. The lru after this bulk move will be: node1,
> node2, node3,node8,node9, node10, node4, node5, node6, node7. Now
> notice that for vm2’s bulk_move, the first pointer  (pointing to
> node6) is actually after the last pointer (pointing to node9), which
> doesn’t make sense.
>  
> Is this a real problem? As I understand it, with this issue, we only
> mess up the lru list order, but there won’t be any functional
> problem. If it is a real problem, should we make the bulk_move global
> instead of per vm based?
>  
> Thanks,
> Oak
>  

FWIW I have a patch set that converts the TTM bulk move code to using
sublists; a list item is either a resource or a sublist, and when
performing a bulk move essentially the sublist is moved. Bumping
resource LRU within a VM would touch only the sublist.

Currently functionality and TTM API is essentially the same but when
experimenting with LRU traversal for exhaustive WW-locking eviction
this concept was easier to use. Also hopefully this would reduce
fragility and improve understanding since a scenario like the above
could really never happen...

Let me know if I should send it out as an RFC.

Code is here:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/xe/kernel/-/merge_requests/351/commits

/Thomas






  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-04  3:52 bulk_move in ttm_resource manager Zeng, Oak
2023-10-04  7:17 ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2023-10-04 12:44   ` Christian König
2023-10-05  3:06     ` Zeng, Oak
2023-10-05  8:36     ` Thomas Hellström
2023-10-05 10:44       ` Christian König
2023-10-05 13:23         ` Thomas Hellström

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