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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
To: "Teres Alexis, Alan Previn" <alan.previn.teres.alexis@intel.com>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>
Cc: "Jana, Mousumi" <mousumi.jana@intel.com>,
	"intel.com@freedesktop.org" <intel.com@freedesktop.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Vivi, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v4 3/3] drm/i915/gt: Timeout when waiting for idle in suspending
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 17:27:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eeded970-cee7-420c-9b34-26ea9d78e420@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16068beebe0fdac5aabd83816fd25367f5170c24.camel@intel.com>


On 13/11/2023 17:57, Teres Alexis, Alan Previn wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 13:58 +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>> On 04/10/2023 18:59, Teres Alexis, Alan Previn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2023-09-28 at 13:46 +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>> On 27/09/2023 17:36, Teres Alexis, Alan Previn wrote:
> alan:snip
>>>> It is not possible to wait for lost G2H in something like
>>>> intel_uc_suspend() and simply declare "bad things happened" if it times
>>>> out there, and forcibly clean it all up? (Which would include releasing
>>>> all the abandoned pm refs, so this patch wouldn't be needed.)
>>>>
>>> alan: I'm not sure if intel_uc_suspend should be held up by gt-level wakeref
>>> check unless huc/guc/gsc-uc are the only ones ever taking a gt wakeref.
>>>
>>> As we already know, what we do know from a uc-perspective:
>>> -  ensure the outstanding guc related workers is flushed which we didnt before
>>> (addressed by patch #1).
>>> - any further late H2G-SchedDisable is not leaking wakerefs when calling H2G
>>> and not realizing it failed (addressed by patch #2).
>>> - (we already), "forcibly clean it all up" at the end of the intel_uc_suspend
>>> when we do the guc reset and cleanup all guc-ids. (pre-existing upstream code)
>>> - we previously didnt have a coherrent guarantee that "this is the end" i.e. no
>>> more new request after intel_uc_suspend. I mean by code logic, we thought we did
>>> (thats why intel_uc_suspend ends wth a guc reset), but we now know otherwise.
>>> So we that fix by adding the additional rcu_barrier (also part of patch #2).
>>
>> It is not clear to me from the above if that includes cleaning up the
>> outstanding CT replies or no. But anyway..
> alan: Apologies, i should have made it clearer by citing the actual function
> name calling out the steps of interest: So if you look at the function
> "intel_gt_suspend_late", it calls "intel_uc_suspend" which in turn calls
> "intel_guc_suspend" which does a soft reset onto guc firmware - so after that
> we can assume all outstanding G2Hs are done. Going back up the stack,
> intel_gt_suspend_late finally calls gt_sanitize which calls "intel_uc_reset_prepare"
> which calls "intel_guc_submission_reset_prepare" which calls
> "scrub_guc_desc_for_outstanding_g2h" which does what we are looking for for all
> types of outstanding G2H. As per prior review comments, besides closing the race
> condition, we were missing an rcu_barrier (which caused new requests to come in way
> late). So we have resolved both in Patch #2.

Cool, I read this as all known bugs are fixed by first two patches.

>>> That said, patch-3 is NOT fixing a bug in guc -its about "if we ever have
>>> a future racy gt-wakeref late-leak somewhere - no matter which subsystem
>>> took it (guc is not the only subsystem taking gt wakerefs), we at
>>> least don't hang forever in this code. Ofc, based on that, even without
>>> patch-3 i am confident the issue is resolved anyway.
>>> So we could just drop patch-3 is you prefer?
>>
>> .. given this it does sound to me that if you are confident patch 3
>> isn't fixing anything today that it should be dropped.
> alan: I won't say its NOT fixing anything - i am saying it's not fixing
> this specific bug where we have the outstanding G2H from a context destruction
> operation that got dropped. I am okay with dropping this patch in the next rev
> but shall post a separate stand alone version of Patch3 - because I believe
> all other i915 subsystems that take runtime-pm's DO NOT wait forever when entering
> suspend - but GT is doing this. This means if there ever was a bug introduced,
> it would require serial port or ramoops collection to debug. So i think such a
> patch, despite not fixing this specific bug will be very helpful for debuggability
> of future issues. After all, its better to fail our suspend when we have a bug
> rather than to hang the kernel forever.

Issue I have is that I am not seeing how it fails the suspend when 
nothing is passed out from *void* wait_suspend(gt). To me it looks the 
suspend just carries on. And if so, it sounds dangerous to allow it to 
do that with any future/unknown bugs in the suspend sequence. Existing 
timeout wedges the GPU (and all that entails). New code just says "meh 
I'll just carry on regardless".

Regards,

Tvrtko


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-14 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-26 19:05 [PATCH v4 0/3] Resolve suspend-resume racing with GuC destroy-context-worker Alan Previn
2023-09-26 19:05 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] drm/i915/guc: Flush context destruction worker at suspend Alan Previn
2023-09-26 19:05 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] drm/i915/guc: Close deregister-context race against CT-loss Alan Previn
2023-10-04  6:34   ` Gupta, Anshuman
2023-10-04 16:46     ` Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
2023-09-26 19:05 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] drm/i915/gt: Timeout when waiting for idle in suspending Alan Previn
2023-09-27  9:02   ` [Intel-gfx] " Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-09-27 16:36     ` Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
2023-09-28 12:46       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-10-04 17:59         ` Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
2023-10-25 12:58           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-11-13 17:57             ` Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
2023-11-14 17:27               ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2023-11-14 17:36                 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2023-11-14 19:34                   ` Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
2023-11-14 17:37                 ` Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
2023-11-14 17:52                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-11-14 19:48                     ` Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
2023-11-16 10:19                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin

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