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From: "Timur Kristóf" <timur.kristof@gmail.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "michael.jamet@intel.com" <michael.jamet@intel.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: Why is Thunderbolt 3 limited to 2.5 GT/s on Linux?
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 13:08:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f550f4a25a7ee7fecd80f7213c3be127ed0323e7.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190628103204.GJ2640@lahna.fi.intel.com>

Hi Mika,

Thanks for your quick reply.

> > 1. Why are there four bridge devices? 04:00.0, 04:01.0 and 04:02.0
> > look
> > superfluous to me and nothing is connected to them. It actually
> > gives
> > me the feeling that the TB3 driver creates 4 devices with 2.5 GT/s
> > each, instead of one device that can do the full 8 GT/s.
> 
> Because it is standard PCIe switch with one upstream port and n
> downstream ports.

Sure, though in this case 3 of those downstream ports are not exposed
by the hardware, so it's a bit surprising to see them there.

Why I asked about it is because I have a suspicion that maybe the
bandwidth is allocated equally between the 4 downstream ports, even
though only one of them is used.

> 
> > 2. Why are some of the bridge devices only capable of 2.5 GT/s
> > according to lspci?
> 
> You need to talk to lspci maintainer.

Sorry if the question was unclear.
It's not only lspci, the kernel also prints a warning about it.

Like I said the device really is limited to 2.5 GT/s even though it
should be able to do 8 GT/s.

> 
> > 3. Is it possible to manually set them to 8 GT/s?
> 
> No idea.
> 
> Are you actually seeing some performance issue because of this or are
> you just curious?

Yes, I see a noticable performance hit: some games have very low frame
rate while neither the CPU nor the GPU are fully utilized.

(Side note: mesa 19.1 has a radeonsi patch that reduces the bandwidth
use, which does help. However it doesn't solve the underlying problem
of the slow TB3 interface.)

Best regards,
Tim

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-28 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-28 10:23 Why is Thunderbolt 3 limited to 2.5 GT/s on Linux? Timur Kristóf
2019-06-28 10:32 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-28 11:08   ` Timur Kristóf [this message]
2019-06-28 11:34     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-28 12:21       ` Timur Kristóf
2019-06-28 12:53         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-28 13:33           ` Timur Kristóf
2019-06-28 14:14             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-28 14:53               ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-01 11:44                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-07-01 14:25                   ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-01 14:28         ` Alex Deucher
2019-07-01 14:38           ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-01 14:46             ` Alex Deucher
2019-07-01 15:10               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-07-01 14:54         ` Michel Dänzer
2019-07-01 16:01           ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-02  8:09             ` Michel Dänzer
2019-07-02  9:49               ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-03  8:07                 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-07-03 11:04                   ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-04  8:26                     ` Michel Dänzer
2019-07-05  9:17                       ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-05 13:36                       ` Alex Deucher
2019-07-18  9:11                         ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-18 13:50                           ` Alex Deucher
     [not found]                             ` <172a41d97d383a8989ebd213bb4230a2df4d636d.camel@gmail.com>
2019-07-19 14:29                               ` Alex Deucher
2019-07-03 18:44                   ` Marek Olšák
2019-07-05  9:27                     ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-05 15:35                       ` Marek Olšák
2019-07-05 16:01                         ` Timur Kristóf
     [not found]                         ` <8f0c2d7780430d40dd1e17a82484d236eae3f981.camel@gmail.com>
2019-07-18 10:29                           ` Michel Dänzer
2019-07-22  9:39                             ` Timur Kristóf
2019-07-23  8:11                               ` Michel Dänzer

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