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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Martin Peres <martin.peres-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied-cv59FeDIM0c@public.gmane.org>,
	thomas.blume-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/nouveau: Don't disable polling in fallback mode
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:01:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hsh03abs2.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56e11b21-9a53-1c4c-759e-b132e7674d71-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:59:25 +0200,
Martin Peres wrote:
> 
> On 14/09/2018 10:28, Ben Skeggs wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 20:59, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> When a fan is controlled via linear fallback without cstate, we
> >> shouldn't stop polling.  Otherwise it won't be adjusted again and
> >> keeps running at an initial crazy pace.
> > Martin,
> > 
> > Any thoughts on this?
> > 
> > Ben.
> 
> Wow, blast from the past!
> 
> Anyway, the analysis is pretty spot on here. When using the cstate-based
> fan speed (change the speed of the fan based on what frequency is used),
> then polling is unnecessary and this function should only be called when
> changing the pstate.
> 
> However, in the absence of ANY information, we fallback to a
> temperature-based management which requires constant polling, so the
> patch is accurate and poll = false should only be set if we have a cstate.
> 
> So, the patch is Reviewed-by: Martin Peres <martin.peres@free.fr>

Just a gentle reminder: this patch seems forgotten for 4.20 merge.
Could you guys pick it if it's OK?


Thanks!

Takashi

> 
> > 
> >>
> >> Fixes: 800efb4c2857 ("drm/nouveau/drm/therm/fan: add a fallback if no fan control is specified in the vbios")
> >> Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103356
> >> Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107447
> 
> I see that Thomas has been having issues with the noise level anyway. I
> suggest he should bump the value of temp1_auto_point1_temp (see
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/thermal/nouveau_thermal).
> 
> The default value is set to 90°C which is quite safe on these old GPUs
> (NVIDIA G71 / nv49). I would say that it is safe to go up to 110°C.
> Which should reduce the noise level.
> 
> Another technique may be to reduce the minimum fan speed to something
> lower than 30°C. It should increase the slope but reduce the noise level
> at a given temperature.
> 
> One reason why these GPUs run so hot on nouveau is the lack of power and
> clock gating. I am sorry that I never finished to reverse engineer these...
> 
> Anyway, thanks a lot for the patch!
> 
> >> Reported-by: Thomas Blume <thomas.blume@suse.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> >>
> >> ---
> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/therm/base.c | 7 ++++---
> >>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/therm/base.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/therm/base.c
> >> index 3695cde669f8..07914e36939e 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/therm/base.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/therm/base.c
> >> @@ -132,11 +132,12 @@ nvkm_therm_update(struct nvkm_therm *therm, int mode)
> >>                         duty = nvkm_therm_update_linear(therm);
> >>                         break;
> >>                 case NVBIOS_THERM_FAN_OTHER:
> >> -                       if (therm->cstate)
> >> +                       if (therm->cstate) {
> >>                                 duty = therm->cstate;
> >> -                       else
> >> +                               poll = false;
> >> +                       } else {
> >>                                 duty = nvkm_therm_update_linear_fallback(therm);
> >> -                       poll = false;
> >> +                       }
> >>                         break;
> >>                 }
> >>                 immd = false;
> >> --
> >> 2.18.0
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nouveau mailing list
> >> Nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org
> >> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/nouveau
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-14 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-12 10:58 [PATCH] drm/nouveau: Don't disable polling in fallback mode Takashi Iwai
     [not found] ` <20180912105843.18117-1-tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-14  7:28   ` Ben Skeggs
     [not found]     ` <CACAvsv5i8LK4zU7+EzFMK-WFrczCafHUCTNkkSO2iSkBL80HpA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-14 11:59       ` Martin Peres
     [not found]         ` <56e11b21-9a53-1c4c-759e-b132e7674d71-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-14 16:01           ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
     [not found]             ` <s5hsh03abs2.wl-tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-30  8:42               ` Ilia Mirkin

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