From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from galois.linutronix.de (Galois.linutronix.de [193.142.43.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2442342EEB7; Fri, 10 Jul 2026 15:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=193.142.43.55 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783699072; cv=none; b=sKas006Fu/P15Au40WHHsgUApTw9GUGOowXk/4GJfjBFrKE8N5uuC1Jqxuew/rn3cBp9TtWyCW5ViDGXh5Kn1OnEv5VYG9r6jpKyuwbI28ikh9cnjqyHWGGkGTZwsam4V0pJlLFxiubOZsJBkflBg44ExWsl8NRVj1xpIZymo/4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783699072; c=relaxed/simple; bh=DdZkj1t+YTdv4lhLH0M2y9omD0U+OijZxhEEAiSHUW0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=MCBjPBl+G8aEAGTjkL6mPUPVKWXs18qDJboDs7EF4Z2ME+BH0i4rMHs4S1p+B2AHPCvY48GPT5ZlWBf42XCIyNVQt9j49qnSD1SkWIJcj0NzPyoB7spwx55dSLp0mqQDXRSRL/IIHu5I64jecxBAAOt9HXMZM5jO2YHJV5fd2eU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linutronix.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linutronix.de; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=linutronix.de header.i=@linutronix.de header.b=QIpR1Grh; dkim=permerror (0-bit key) header.d=linutronix.de header.i=@linutronix.de header.b=OusP/pyX; arc=none smtp.client-ip=193.142.43.55 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linutronix.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linutronix.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=linutronix.de header.i=@linutronix.de header.b="QIpR1Grh"; dkim=permerror (0-bit key) header.d=linutronix.de header.i=@linutronix.de header.b="OusP/pyX" Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 17:57:47 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linutronix.de; s=2020; t=1783699069; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+PWBQnjpjM3noppY6fe5xm8QlJvFDQRgM8OSC4p6tbo=; b=QIpR1GrhFCHRbIiqPrab0c6viqd3sfuUb8yHBKY9lyjKnfnMuTx6RWB1EtuZrNSZibkRKA lKpF+Py03NcCqJV1FbA4UncwpvuojxHTnL4G0Ix0e3wXRDazRjLdKOi2s7f/FJCz6yBNq3 m2RYcuNwswQTsYZkikdLq3bmaQM9zj8F/qAz6W5tNX+PBCWNJNOBSwTC5LRFE9GliqKfv8 ghyu+JrG2Ie9yIfga2Ggluv1Ivgua+B2CFGR6kJ5Nu6ueuKO/l6FJRoOoCIUrynDlAwsvT p0DSOnc6d4Jsvis5Gs5zCh8mjSwTFqPLTb4XthF2yFz1MNeDARRaiwBL36puiw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linutronix.de; s=2020e; t=1783699069; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+PWBQnjpjM3noppY6fe5xm8QlJvFDQRgM8OSC4p6tbo=; b=OusP/pyXcFU/Govzi/x77zqVmOfBkl5Bpeqq46ohtMWLj7tL701EM9yr08qyUyNeG+xAiS asLQ/QAYRp6owTBQ== From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Florian Bezdeka , Greg Kroah-Hartman , driver-core@lists.linux.dev, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Arnd Bergmann , Clark Williams , Danilo Krummrich , Peter Zijlstra , Thomas Gleixner , Jan Kiszka Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sysfs: Add /sys/kernel/realtime entry Message-ID: <20260710155747.0HAm5jm5@linutronix.de> References: <20260709143108.UYeCUUcd@linutronix.de> <2026070922-kilowatt-matador-5e1c@gregkh> <20260709152214.rH1O_8SM@linutronix.de> <748a489687000b21d0e8f961fc2f9f963b0bc1d1.camel@siemens.com> <20260710115145.32729a7c@gandalf.local.home> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: driver-core@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260710115145.32729a7c@gandalf.local.home> On 2026-07-10 11:51:45 [-0400], Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 09:23:16 +0200 > Florian Bezdeka wrote: > > > uname might qualify, yes, but keep in mind that this sysfs based API is > > already used, so a removal might break applications. Yes, userspace can > > be fixed / adjusted, but it remains bad style, no? > > Then at most it will likely just stay in the -rt patch set. As it was never > mainlined, it's not breaking any user space that uses only the mainline > kernel. And I am thinking about dropping it from -RT queue. The -RT queue has the 8250 (which days are numbered) and i915 which is making progress towards upstream. Therefore I want to clarify the status of this. > -- Steve Sebastian