From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] driver core: add TAINT_FORCED_BIND for when userspace manually messes with devices and drivers
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 21:05:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026102604-tint-catcall-433e@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261026184312.GA1685504@ziepe.ca>
On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 03:43:12PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 02:22:43PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>
> > This is needed for two reasons: to save hardware and software resources
> > when creating a large number of VFs, and to allow the PCI config space to
> > be configured *before* the driver starts using it.
> >
> > There is no in-kernel alternative.
>
> Having userspace involved in driver binding has also always been the
> plan for confidential computing needs. We cannot have a device driver
> bound across some of the HW transitions like TDISP shared/private, so
> there has always been an expectation of bind/unbind.
What, why? What forces that decision? What's wrong with the proper
driver for the hardware being bound automatically to the device?
> For this case the existing sysf drivers_probe is good enough for bind,
> but we must have taint-free unbind for PCI devices too.
Why?
> I think this patch should be reverted ASAP, it is a pretty major
> regression for a lot of users.
But this use case hasn't even happened yet, so what would regress?
I'm not talking about the vfio thing, that's different here...
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-26 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-14 14:30 [PATCH v4 0/3] driver core: add TAINT_FORCED_BIND for when userspace manually messes with devices and drivers Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-14 14:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] module: pull out add_taint_module() to be public Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-14 14:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] module: fix up documentation for add_taint() and add_taint_module() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-14 14:42 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-09-18 15:44 ` Aaron Tomlin
2026-09-14 14:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] driver core: add TAINT_FORCED_BIND for when userspace manually messes with devices and drivers Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-18 16:39 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] " Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-18 17:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-18 17:29 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-09-22 7:39 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-09-22 13:40 ` David Lechner
2026-09-22 21:04 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-23 6:29 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-09-23 9:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-23 9:54 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-09-23 10:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-24 0:13 ` Alex Williamson
2026-10-24 4:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-24 7:32 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-10-24 8:03 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-10-24 16:35 ` Alex Williamson
2026-10-26 20:34 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-25 12:48 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-10-26 22:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-26 12:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-10-26 18:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-26 20:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2026-10-26 22:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-26 20:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-26 22:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-23 20:52 ` Armin Wolf
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