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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@kernel.org>,
	"Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/10] gpu: nova-core: use projection for PFALCON and PFALCON2 registers
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 22:07:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKAH4S5IE3RZ.10VD33NMVVLDR@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DKAFRETW93IW.SXUWFVB47V3B@garyguo.net>

On Tue Jul 28, 2026 at 9:03 PM CEST, Gary Guo wrote:
> On Tue Jul 28, 2026 at 7:56 PM BST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Tue Jul 28, 2026 at 8:26 PM CEST, Gary Guo wrote:
>>> On Tue Jul 28, 2026 at 6:01 PM BST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>>> I may have a slight preference for a separate subregion() variant for the
>>>> purpose of working around generic_const_exprs, as it probably is a bit closer to
>>>> the final solution, but trait methods are fine with me too.
>>>
>>> I am not sure that's the final solution that I want. I want arg-position
>>> const-generics which would syntactically look more similar to `build_assert!`.
>>
>> arg-position const generics would be great, but that's just a syntax difference
>> and not related to supporting expressions involving const generics?
>>
>> In any case, I think my point about being closer to the final solution holds
>> regardless.
>>
>>> Personally I think most issues with `build_assert!` can be fixed by having
>>> lints, which is on my radar.
>>
>> I think it can be improved, but in the end it relies on compiler optimization
>> that may or may not happen as expected.
>
> It'd be a compiler bug if const folding is expected to happen, the whole
> BUILD_BUG_ON depends on it working.
>
> `build_assert!` is a useful tool that I'm not giving up. If there is a need to
> use it, then I'd use it compared to having two variants to do the same thing
> with different syntax.

It is indeed useful and I don't want to give up on it either.

But, it is more fragile than const evaluation, so we should only use it where
const evaluation is not sufficient.

In the case we are discussing the problem is that const expressions involving
const generics are not yet supported, but in general it should be.

This is different compared to e.g. read() where the syntax difference would
actually hurt and const generics would limit flexibility, where we actually rely
on the compiler to eliminate unreachable code paths regardless of a value being
known at runtime only.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-28 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-21 16:54 [PATCH 00/10] rust: io: make register bases typed and remove relative registers Gary Guo
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] rust: io: register: allow explicit base type specification Gary Guo
2026-07-24  6:38   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-24 13:22     ` Gary Guo
2026-07-27  5:27       ` Eliot Courtney
2026-07-27  8:14         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-28 19:12           ` John Hubbard
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] gpu: nova-core: specify base type for registers Gary Guo
2026-07-28  6:47   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] drm/tyr: " Gary Guo
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] samples: rust: pci: " Gary Guo
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] rust: io: register: make register have a typed base Gary Guo
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] rust: io: add static `cast()` method for views Gary Guo
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] rust: io: add subregion method with compile-time check Gary Guo
2026-07-28  7:21   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] gpu: nova-core: use projection for PFALCON and PFALCON2 registers Gary Guo
2026-07-28  6:45   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-28 10:24     ` Gary Guo
2026-07-28 15:09       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-28 17:01         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-07-28 18:26           ` Gary Guo
2026-07-28 18:56             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-07-28 19:03               ` Gary Guo
2026-07-28 19:30                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-07-28 20:07                 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] gpu: nova-core: convert hshub0 from relative register to projection Gary Guo
2026-07-21 16:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] rust: io: register: remove relative registers Gary Guo

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