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From: Clark Williams <clark.williams@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sysfs: Add /sys/kernel/realtime entry
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 12:18:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alfA3ZaM1kmFaicG@demetrius> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260714110718.E5qV5-Hf@linutronix.de>

On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 01:07:18PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-07-10 18:01:20 [+0200], Florian Bezdeka wrote:
> > Depends on what you consider a valid update scenario. Updating from 6.1-
> > rt with sysfs available to something like 6.18 (no sysfs anymore) will
> > still break - as long as you do not (force) update userspace in
> > lockstep.
> 
> v6.1-RT to v6-18 no-rt will not provide the file. Also will not provide
> ARM, PowerPC or 8250-nbcon support. So it is not just that single thing
> that you "lose" if you don't apply the RT patch. It is just what you
> notice because you don't use the other things.
> 
> > I learned meanwhile that our detection moved to uname meanwhile, so this
> > is not a problem for us anymore.
> 
> Okay. So you yelled loudly that you need it, now not anymore.
> 
> So can we state that this it does not provide anything of value, is not
> considered needed and can be dropped?
> 
> Clark, what is the status on your end?
> 

I still carry it in v6.1-rt and v6.6-rt and don't really see a reason
not to. I don't believe it's a security risk since a write to
/sys/kernel/realtime gets ignored; it's just there to say that this is a
PREEMPT_RT kernel. 

So, I'm ambivalent on the keep or drop question. I'll go ahead and clean
up what I'm carrying in v6.1-rt and v6.6-rt and if we decide to keep it
I'll send you the updated changes. 

Clark

-- 
The United States Coast Guard
Ruining Natural Selection since 1790

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-15 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-09 14:31 [RFC PATCH] sysfs: Add /sys/kernel/realtime entry Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-09 14:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-09 15:22   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-09 16:02     ` Clark Williams
2026-07-10  7:02       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-10  7:05       ` Tomas Glozar
2026-07-10  7:23     ` Florian Bezdeka
2026-07-10 15:51       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-10 15:57         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-10 16:01         ` Florian Bezdeka
2026-07-10 16:12           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-14 11:07           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-15 17:18             ` Clark Williams [this message]
2026-07-10 16:05         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-10 16:14           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-09 15:54   ` Steven Rostedt

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