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From: Nick Alcock <nick.alcock@oracle.com>
To: Kris Van Hees <kris.van.hees@oracle.com>
Cc: dtrace@lists.linux.dev, dtrace-devel@oss.oracle.com
Subject: Re: [DTrace-devel] [PATCH 0/9] relocatable DTrace
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 20:54:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5hxmj5n.fsf@esperi.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZqqOogLNszSvuMmW@oracle.com> (Kris Van Hees's message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2024 15:21:06 -0400")

On 31 Jul 2024, Kris Van Hees said:

> General comments because my review covers the entire series...
>
> Why are there two pkg_config files being introduced when it seems like a
> single dtrace.pc one would be sufficient.  The dtrace utility is used both
> for tracing and for the building of libraries and executables with USDT
> probes,  I see no reason why a single dtrace.pc couldn't cover both.

Simply because there are two distinct use cases here that require a
different set of libraries and headers from different places: "we want
to use USDT using <sdt.h>", and "we are a DTrace consumer". Almost
nothing wants both, only one wants a library, etc etc.

Bear in mind that more-or-less universal usage of pkg-config (as in,
with CMake, Autoconf and Meson it is hard to impossible to do anything
else) has the caller appending $(pkg-config --cflags $pkg) to CFLAGS or
CPPFLAGS and $(pkg-config --libs $pkg) to LIBS. If we tried to use the
same pkg-config file, this would mean that *raw USDT probe users* would
find themselves linking with libdtrace! This is *surely* not what we
want.

pkg-config is not meant to be "one pkg-config file per package", despite
the name: a huge number of packages have multiple. (The worst offender
on my system appears to be Qt 6, with 136, but even a simple thing like
xcb-util has four.)

> On that note, why can't pkg-config then also be used as a means to get the
> location of the dtrace executable?  Why go through the trouble of performing
> text substitution on runtest.sh to insert the location of dtrace when you
> already use pkg-config in it to get the appropriate include directory for
> the installed case.

Because I didn't think of it. That's an excellent idea. Adjusting
accordingly. Will send a v2 of the whole series (because it's been
ages).

> I think this series needs to be reworked to be consistent.  If we are going
> to use pkg-config, then let's use it to its fullest extent rather than using
> it for some stuff but then still hardcoding other things.  That makes no sense
> to me.

Agreed. Anything else you can think of that's hardcoded? I can't
immediately think of anything (because we can't use pkg-config in
dtprobed.service, it's not a program) but you looked at this much more
recently than me...

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-31 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-31 18:59 [PATCH 0/9] relocatable DTrace Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 1/9] spec: install sdt*.h in /usr/lib64/dtrace/include/sys Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 2/9] build: initial pkg-config support Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 3/9] build: track configured vars Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 4/9] build: --bindir is supposed to be equivalent to --sbindir Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 5/9] build: the TESTDIR is relative to the LIBDIR by default Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 6/9] build: add a pkg-config file for dtrace consumers: use it Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 7/9] tests: delete the kernel build dir stuff Nick Alcock
2024-07-31 19:22   ` [DTrace-devel] " Kris Van Hees
2024-07-31 19:32     ` Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 8/9] build: make dtrace and dtprobed relocatable Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 19:46   ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2024-05-31 18:59 ` [PATCH 9/9] test: work when relocated Nick Alcock
2024-07-31 19:21 ` [DTrace-devel] [PATCH 0/9] relocatable DTrace Kris Van Hees
2024-07-31 19:54   ` Nick Alcock [this message]
2024-07-31 20:11     ` Kris Van Hees
2024-08-01 16:45       ` Nick Alcock

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